Now that Gaijin has fixed its high speed rudder where it immediately goes sh#!t mode the moment you go past 450 km/h IAS, it eats anything in a down tier and can go pound for pound in an uptier, with its only drawback being US pilots gimping its WR%. Obviously it deserves to go back in the 5.0 range or should it go higher than it? (Thinking of 5.3)
I took it out on 5 matches today and only died once from ground pounding. Had a KBP of 3.5+ with it.
There has been no change to the F8F’s rudder’s ability of control at high speeds.
What changed is the rate at which it gets to that uncontrollability, AKA “sharpness”.
F8F-1 (all variants) — a bug that caused a sharp loss of rudder efficiency at high speeds has been fixed.
Congrats, sir! You just made a mistake!
Edit: Why is this considered off-topic?
This reply was well concerned about F8F-1’s rudder change and completely in-topic.
Can I get PM about why?
I literally played the aircraft prior to making the post. The rudder impact is still there, and still prevents nose on shots at high speeds.
Congrats on making your mistake.
So are you trying to make a ‘Gaijin is lying on their patch note’ claim?
No matter new rudder change is marginal or not
It is true that Gaijin ‘changed’ it.
You claimed that ‘it never happened at all’.
It’s a more gradual loss now, as said in the post you replied to.
That is exactly what the changelog says, yes. Either way it’s a big change and the Bearcat is much more dangerous now.
You can actually aim at high speed now, even with the compression, unlike before where the rudder did nothing at all.
I really wish we could freely switch between FM versions in free flights, so we could just make comparison videos.
It did it even before the change. The BR should be closer to 6.0 because it is almost as good as a P-51H at the deck in terms of engine performance.
Before after example.
Naaah… I can’t wait to see F8F-1 go down to 4.3BR as long as I see all those bearcats just go ground digging or initiate low-speed turnfights against Zeros. :/
Major Skill issues in the American team, which made F8F get buffed, will make them buffed even further.
I did 3 matches in the A6M5 Ko, fought F8F’s and they were pure poo poo. Still remember using the Yak 3 VK107 and encountering two 3-man squads that used the F8F in conjunction with other meta planes, I’ve never seen a team get swept so fast that wasn’t in Top Tier. Edit: my team not theirs
Game gave me a talisman on it when I was already Rank 6 on the American TT, but I still love playing the F8F.
F4U-1A with water injection is already at 2.7. F8F which is literally 1945 superprop staying at 4.7 in this game, it can stay there since that’s what most players can feel right. Just because utilizing the speed can lower the KD of A6Ms to 0.2, doesn’t mean A6M5 should be at 4.0. The problem I find is that F8Fs are controlled by 80% idiots with 0 concept of energy and speed, and 20% good players clubbing with it. Making it stressful to deal with good F8F players. Because of the dispersion in the player skills, you can’t be sure if a random F8F is controlled by a decent player or not unless checking their in-game player stats. Even if the team rolls against the US-containing team, just seeing so many F8Fs above me is putting stress over my mind. They climb at 27 meters per second at the ground, and they reach 680kph top speed in deck due to the ram air intake at gear-cut producing 2850hp. It goes 700kph TAS in 5000m anyway, though the reduced horsepower. If statistically, and demographically balanced, I’m fine with it placed at 4.7. The BR should be corresponding to the average skills of the players. Also “US mains are bad” is myth, since A6M players are doing the same tactics, turning. And they are just happened to be adjusted to the “dumb” playstyle, whether the players understand the concept is not the point. I’m just saying the typical “A6M easy, US aircraft takes skills”. But damn it has a performance of 5.3.
I use MEC on the F8F-1, and trust me it’s such a monster. It can climb at 25m/s at 100% throttle. It should really be 5.0-5.3 at this point, plus them fixing its sudden rudder lockup at high speed gave it such an edge. Prior to this I rarely flew it out because of how annoying its rudder lockup can get, now I average 3-4kpb with it.
F8F controlled by a good player is literally untouchable by the way.
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oh look i can also flag your post, Mutually assured annoyance, funny how that works huh.
whatever, keep giving squadron discords screenshots to laugh at. buuuuh bye.
If it went from a sharp increase near the end, to a gradual increase after the patch, and the end values are still the same, its actually a nerf to the f8f, as now it compresses more at middling speeds than it did before, and the critical speed compression is the same as before.