team play doesnt exist at those brs due to premium spam its defiantly a dead plane i wouldnt say im a crazy skilled pilot but
1 stock grind is horrendous
2 you face better versions of yourself but there spaded and you arent
3 your stuck with your best missile is AIM-7D and AIM-9E
4 this vehicle while being usable is straight up suffering 10.7s and 10.3s eat you alive mig 21BIS at 11.0 gonna be grilling you on a stick
my opinion F4D should be added to replace the F4C
I don’t think they need to…
F-4C can use up to AIM-7E/E-2 and AIM-9P variants. Plus it can carry IRCM pod.
return to hangar
They should ask how to instead of demanding change to an aircraft they don’t know how to effectively utilize.
I don’t hand out 30 day courses C25k-style for people who do nothing but whine and complain. Everything from this post shows me that that’s all they can do.
what doesn’t exist is knowledge amongst the players,… 85% of them are doing nothing good,…
in all the game i’ve made,… the only moments i truly got fun is when allies aren’t those 85%,… but the 15% that knows the game and acts with and around allies.
as exemple 1 random ally dragged 4 ennemy on him, but instead of giving me head-on,… he gave side/rear shots - i took 2 ennemy with missiles, and 2 others with guns,… all in 32 seconds, because i didn’t had to re-position myself behind them → that ally did it for me.
baiting for allies are not rewarded,… but i still make it often, as it helps going from 2vs6 to winning the game.
So,… the lack of teamplay come from the lack of knowledge,… which is common even amongst players talking on the forum,…
I haven’t played the plane but after thinking about it I gotta acknowledge that I never lost to a F-4C (I play 9.0 subsonic jets). Considering how bad the compression is at that br, I’m not sure that it’s normal for a 9.0 fighter to crush a 10.0 fighter
no doubt lol 10.0 without countermeasures. I suggest you just skip it and grind the F-5
literal hypocrisy in a single message.
F-4C is just garbage. Its heavy, has bad maneuverability, Its only poit is AIM-7F which surprisingly easy to dodge on a head-on. And they are completely useless in rear aspect :/
And its not even the fastest plane there!
So it meets with the better rockets, better planes, much of them already have tons of flares. So it just sucks. You need to rat your kills to get any, and that makes that plane a
Whilist the Israely Phantom which got better engines, flares and decent rockets considered one of the best planes of the rating, lack of those at the 4C makes it worst one of the rating.
It’s a great plane, especially at the top. You need to know how to play it, and play to its speed. But yeah, his BR is high. His maximum BR is 9.7.
Always the same people replying to comments with “Skill Issue” and doing nothing for constructive conversations.
All I can say is that you just shouldn’t use certain vehicles unless you really like them. Many of my favorite tanks and aircraft have been left to rot simply because Gaijin doesn’t care about a tech tree enough or they forgot about the vehicle.
The F-4C is from well over 5 years ago. They forgot about it and have no intention of improving the experience regarding it.
Biggest advice is
1- Using rocket pods as flares if flying any flareless aircraft, remember to cut afterburner aswell.
2- Learn the matchmaker and potential threats and focus on the biggest threats first eg. 10.7 seeing 11.7 Mig23 MLs should be priority followed by other radar missile slingers and work your way down the threat list. Going for a base bombing aircraft while tempting isnt having an impact on the match. You want to make your aircraft top dog for late game so you can dictate engagements
3- Side climb still very relevant at jet tiers before essentially Fox3 tier. The spotting system you need to take advantage of it. Let your teammates engage the furball and spot for you while you remain unspotted.
4- Ir missiles for the most part only work if you enemy isnt aware they have been launched upon. Learn when an enemy is probably gonna flare or launch a missile and wait until the timing is right. Below clip is prime example. Missiles are best from top down shots as its biggest blind spot.
5- Launch an ir missile and dont chase the target feign like you are going for someone else. If the missile has lost its diamond from the motor burning out and you are on thier 6 they will most likely drop a flare. If you look like you arnt chasing them they might not. Works too well on the J7D and chinese missiles.
https://youtube.com/shorts/pTmTKKA4hlo?si=VLrEHiYXgo0Hw4zh
Mirage 3E stock grind Aim9bs vs Mig23MLs
Ive stock to spaded alot of bad aircraft in this game and this is probably the best jet in a nutshell advice.
Most players will see an F4C and think free kill once you are spotted so stay fast and unspotted as long as you can.
The f4c is a fighter-bomber, use it first as a bomber then once you drop bombs hit air targets as you return to the airfield. Also, when it comes to missiles completely cut your throttle when a heatseeker is coming for you and yank it in a different direction (I’ve found that doing a roll while holding the rudder works decently and turning immediately after) but yeah it doesnt have flares, are thats a downside but it didnt have them irl so cant do much about it.
as for the 30g missiles yeah they need to be nerfed/removed from that br. also the f4c is only 10.0 because it can carry 8 missiles (for context I fully spaded the f4c)