Freind I would ask you to check your language and not insult people. yes the protoype coninuted to operate after prorgram was canceled but with no upgrades it was not possible for it to fire AMRAAM’s additonal when it talks about “beyond visual range radar missiles” could easily just be reffering to sparrow.
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Bruh
If you feel insulted there is your drama
give me a reason why the F20 is at 12.7 and is unplayable at 75 dollars. Mr Drama
Let’s see Mr. aureonautical engineer, why couldn’t the f20 shoot the Aim120 with an F18 radar with TWS data link and lighter missiles than the Aim7 and all the electronics implemented and in the sales commercial they admit that it could use the aim120? And you say no. your word is worth more than the books.
Funny you mention it I am infact an aerospace engineer but that acutally doesn’t even have any bearing on this as I do jet engines. Anyway the answer as to why the F-20 cant fire AMRAAM is quite simple wiring and radar interagration. You can’t just stick a missile on a pylon and have it fire, A good example of this is the Jag GR.1A and GR.3 the changed the wire roouting to be able to use the top pylon which is why you can’t carry missiles on the top and bottom pylons. The computer and radar have to be able to interface with the missile to power it up feed it the data it needs and give it the launch command. Also as for drama freind I don’t see any.
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There is a flaw in their argument
The Northrop F-20 Tigershark was designed as a light, highly maneuverable fighter intended to compete in the international fighter market during the Cold War. Although the F-20 program was cancelled in 1986, there is a compelling argument to consider that the F-20 could have carried the AIM-120A AMRAAM as part of its armament.
Advanced Design and Armament Flexibility
The F-20 was designed with modern avionics and advanced fire control systems for its time. The F-20’s avionics were compatible with a wide range of air-to-air missiles, including the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-7 Sparrow. The addition of the AIM-120A AMRAAM, developed in the mid-1980s, would have been a natural evolution, considering that the AIM-120 was designed to be interoperable with existing platforms that already integrated similar systems.
Commitment to Interoperability
Northrop promoted the F-20 as an affordable solution for nations seeking a high-performance fighter without the high cost of aircraft such as the F-15 or F-16. To attract these customers, the ability to carry the AIM-120A would have been a key selling point. The F-20 benefited from being designed with NATO standards in mind, which facilitated interoperability with other NATO systems and armaments, including the AIM-120
During marketing campaigns, Northrop consistently highlighted the F-20’s modern capabilities, including showing models and renderings of the aircraft with AIM-120A missiles. Visual promotion and sales brochures often illustrated the F-20 with this capability, underscoring its potential as a fighter equipped with the latest technologies.
Technological Evolution of the AIM-120
he development of the AIM-120A coincided temporally with the end of the F-20’s development. The ability of the AIM-120A to be integrated into multiple platforms was a key missile design. F-20 technology, although developed prior to the full operability of the AIM-120, was sufficiently advanced that integration of the missile was not an insurmountable technical challenge.
Conclusion
Although the F-20 program was cancelled before the AIM-120A AMRAAM entered full service, Northrop’s technical capability and marketing campaigns guide us that the F-20 could have carried the AIM-120A. This argument is supported on the basis of the F-20’s advanced design, its compatibility with modern weapon systems, and Northrop’s clear intent to portray the F-20 as a versatile, future-proof fighter in official advertising.
you can not say that the f-20A according to their missiles were mockups because it is a mistake, the test colors are different and the f-20A carried the aim-120 test that are not a mockup because the test colors are these
White: This is the most common color for test missiles. It indicates that the missile is unarmed and is being used for performance and technology testing.
Red: Sometimes used to indicate that the missile is carrying a dummy payload, but not an actual warhead.
Blue: May indicate that the missile is in an early test phase and has not been tested under actual combat conditions.
Green: Indicates that the missile has been tested and is in a final evaluation phase before being declared operational.
it is stupid to say it is a mock-up.
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The AN/APG-67 radar of the F-20A Tigershark did have data link capability, it used MIL-STD-1553.
a military standard data bus that allowed communication between the aircraft’s sensors and cockpit displays, as well as transferring data to other aircraft.
Although the F-20 program was cancelled before the AIM-120 entered full service, the aircraft was equipped with the AN/APG-67 radar, which had the capability to guide and fire medium-range missiles such as the AIM-120A
In its capabilities it could
Target Detection: The F-20’s AN/APG-67 radar detected and tracked the airborne target using its X-band Doppler pulse radar system.
Radar Lock-on: Once the radar had a lock on the target, the pilot could launch the missile.
Data Link: During the initial phase of flight, the missile received target position updates via a data link (MIL-STD-1553) from the launching aircraft.
Missile Radar Activation: Once the missile was close enough to the target, it activated its own active search radar to complete the intercept.
Ok so a lot of stuff I didn’t know in there that was neat to know. However could be intergrated does not mean was intergrated, which is unfortunte but the truth. Additonaly the AMRAAM’s fitted to the F-20 were indeed white mock-up AMRAAM’s which have no visible servo’s and were either hollow mockup’s or purely aerodynamic and weight faximiles
However I will say based on this that is entierly possible that the F-20 could end up with AMRAAM in the furutre if gaijen wanted too.
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Possibly, considering that they already have put mockup missiles on things like Yak-141
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Biblically accurate F-20A I pray (and Lavi as well)
Exactly I recon if they feel that the F-20 needed them for balance it would probably get them.
I agree that it was never tested in real combat with real missiles because of a limitation where congress denied development and Northrop Corporation was handling other projects that took away their interest and resources in the f-20, but seeing how the game progresses and the f-20A is in a br where it is at a disadvantage normally I think it deserves to be introduced aim-120a because its only limitation was merely that Northrop Corporation did not have permits to operate in tests with real missiles, but operated with test missiles that were used in the F-14D and other variants of development aircraft that eventually ended up carrying aim-120, I think since it receives them.
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because to continue the f-20 passed almost all the developmental tests which were Initial Development and Evaluation, Ground Testing, Initial Flight Testing, Weapons Integration Testing: The aircraft is equipped with inert missiles (no explosive charge) to perform launch tests and ensure that the missile detaches correctly from the aircraft where the f-20A passed the tests correctly.
Active Missile Tests: Once the f-20A has been tested for safety and functionality with inert missiles, active missile tests are conducted in a controlled environment. These tests are supervised by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and other relevant entities, the f-20 by its cancellation could not get the support of state agencies and was limited much to test missiles without real load but if you pass the tests of all missiles of different colors of test that only lacked to be able to have support from the (DARPA) that could not.because to continue the f-20 passed almost all the developmental tests which were Initial Development and Evaluation, Ground Testing, Initial Flight Testing, Weapons Integration Testing: The aircraft is equipped with inert missiles (no explosive charge) to perform launch tests and ensure that the missile detaches correctly from the aircraft where the f-20A passed the tests correctly.
Active Missile Tests: Once the f-20A has been tested for safety and functionality with inert missiles, active missile tests are conducted in a controlled environment. These tests are supervised by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and other relevant entities, the f-20 by its cancellation could not get the support of state agencies and was limited much to test missiles without real load but if you pass the tests of all missiles of different colors of test that only lacked to be able to have support from the (DARPA) that could not.
The last one that was also missing was the Evaluation and Certification, which in short is that after completing all the tests, the data collected is evaluated and the aircraft is certified for the operational use of the missile. During its development, tests were performed with inert missiles and simulations to ensure the compatibility and functionality of the weapon system, and the tests were passed, not for nothing Northrop Corporation tried to carry out the project despite having everything against it.
you need to be quite, you resort to slurs when you cant win an argument
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Mockup is good enough, now give AMRAAM
So obviously not a bug.
Advertisement material for a non-produced F-20 that isn’t even in-game is not valid.
F-20A is a complete combat capable prototype similar to Leopard 2K.
There is no bug to report, cause the F-20 that can carry AIM-120s isn’t even in War Thunder.
F-20A is an F-16/Mirage 2000 equivalent aircraft.
And there’s absolutely no evidence that the pylons were wired for AIM-120s, let alone rails made for them.
If you want an AIM-120 F-20, ask for a paper F-20B.
The Yak-141 also only had mockup missiles, yet this RUSSIAN Jet is in the Game just fine. Hmmmm 🤔🤨
there is a difference between the Yak and F-20. the F-20 was capable of mounting and firing missile such as the AIM-7 and AIM-9, the Yak on the otherhand wasnt and needs these missile to be usable. the F-20 doesnt need the AIM-120 to be usable.
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For a 75 Euro price Tag, it absolutely does.
Prove that Yak-141 and Ho-229 were ever a combat-ready prototypes.