F20A TigerShark

I agree that it was never tested in real combat with real missiles because of a limitation where congress denied development and Northrop Corporation was handling other projects that took away their interest and resources in the f-20, but seeing how the game progresses and the f-20A is in a br where it is at a disadvantage normally I think it deserves to be introduced aim-120a because its only limitation was merely that Northrop Corporation did not have permits to operate in tests with real missiles, but operated with test missiles that were used in the F-14D and other variants of development aircraft that eventually ended up carrying aim-120, I think since it receives them.

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because to continue the f-20 passed almost all the developmental tests which were Initial Development and Evaluation, Ground Testing, Initial Flight Testing, Weapons Integration Testing: The aircraft is equipped with inert missiles (no explosive charge) to perform launch tests and ensure that the missile detaches correctly from the aircraft where the f-20A passed the tests correctly.

Active Missile Tests: Once the f-20A has been tested for safety and functionality with inert missiles, active missile tests are conducted in a controlled environment. These tests are supervised by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and other relevant entities, the f-20 by its cancellation could not get the support of state agencies and was limited much to test missiles without real load but if you pass the tests of all missiles of different colors of test that only lacked to be able to have support from the (DARPA) that could not.because to continue the f-20 passed almost all the developmental tests which were Initial Development and Evaluation, Ground Testing, Initial Flight Testing, Weapons Integration Testing: The aircraft is equipped with inert missiles (no explosive charge) to perform launch tests and ensure that the missile detaches correctly from the aircraft where the f-20A passed the tests correctly.

Active Missile Tests: Once the f-20A has been tested for safety and functionality with inert missiles, active missile tests are conducted in a controlled environment. These tests are supervised by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and other relevant entities, the f-20 by its cancellation could not get the support of state agencies and was limited much to test missiles without real load but if you pass the tests of all missiles of different colors of test that only lacked to be able to have support from the (DARPA) that could not.

The last one that was also missing was the Evaluation and Certification, which in short is that after completing all the tests, the data collected is evaluated and the aircraft is certified for the operational use of the missile. During its development, tests were performed with inert missiles and simulations to ensure the compatibility and functionality of the weapon system, and the tests were passed, not for nothing Northrop Corporation tried to carry out the project despite having everything against it.

you need to be quite, you resort to slurs when you cant win an argument

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Mockup is good enough, now give AMRAAM

So obviously not a bug.
Advertisement material for a non-produced F-20 that isn’t even in-game is not valid.
F-20A is a complete combat capable prototype similar to Leopard 2K.

There is no bug to report, cause the F-20 that can carry AIM-120s isn’t even in War Thunder.

F-20A is an F-16/Mirage 2000 equivalent aircraft.
And there’s absolutely no evidence that the pylons were wired for AIM-120s, let alone rails made for them.

If you want an AIM-120 F-20, ask for a paper F-20B.

The Yak-141 also only had mockup missiles, yet this RUSSIAN Jet is in the Game just fine. Hmmmm 🤔🤨

there is a difference between the Yak and F-20. the F-20 was capable of mounting and firing missile such as the AIM-7 and AIM-9, the Yak on the otherhand wasnt and needs these missile to be usable. the F-20 doesnt need the AIM-120 to be usable.

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For a 75 Euro price Tag, it absolutely does.

Prove that Yak-141 and Ho-229 were ever a combat-ready prototypes.

only buy it when its on sale? would you support me if i wanted MICA’s on the Mirage 4000 cause a questionable page on a questionable flight manual showed it with triple racks of “advanced air-to-air missiles”

I don’t often agree with him, but he has a point
Hell, F-20 Tigershark even performed live firing tests with AGM-65 and AIM-7
It already beats Yak-141
Not only that but F-20, had it got international attention, would have very likely received the AMRAAM since brochures did advertise F-20 with “growth BVR missiles”

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Will be a nice easy free kill for the Typhoon at 13.3 so I wont complain about them moving up

As long as the F-20 can get a quick and easy kill or two before dying, fine with me.

there was never an F-20B. The F-20 Tigershark program only built three F-20A prototypes before being cancelled, we are always talking about the F-20A.

I’ve heard of rumors of it carried when given to Germany as potential export option, not sure real though.

Currently, I would say the F-20 doesn’t really need AMRAAMs where it’s at, maybe just a very slight BR reduction for Air RB. AMRAAMs would only make it move up, and seeing as the F-20 is already lacking when it comes to Countermeasures amount, it would likely become rather unfun to play at a higher BR.

As for the actual technical aspect: AMRAAM mockups were displayed likely post 1984-1985, and as far as I can tell, they were only ever present while the F-20 was on the ground (iirc only prototypes 2 and 3 would’ve had them, while prototype 1 did actual flight demonstrations during airshows). They were never properly integrated on prototypes 2 and 3, due to just how many changes were made to what was supposed to be the actual production variant (which by this point was only partly built as prototype 4, and never finished). I won’t go into the details unless you guys are actually curious about the history behind the various “production” Tigersharks, as it would get decently long-winded and complicated.

Germany only ever tested prototype 1, which not only lacked the APG-67 of Prototypes 2 and 3, but also lacked the full modernized cockpit and more powerful engine of the other two prototypes. I don’t believe prototype 1 even tested the Sparrows due to outright not having a radar.

The testing itself was also more of a marketing gimmick (as it was for all 9-or-so nations that tested it), lasting only 2 weeks per-country. I don’t believe weapons-testing as whole was done during those 2 weeks, either.

Kind of an interesting thing that once again ties back to the year and intended production model (for that year), but that’s something that’s not entirely true lol

Airframe, radar, and weapons is what I’m basing it off of.
Especially since F-20 will go similar speeds as both next major.

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So then the one we have in-game is essentially the production one, which would be comparable to early Mirage 2000 and F-16A (Block 10, 15, and 15 ADF).

As far as Gaijin’s implementation, it’s pretty much as close as you can get.