So is it reportable? F-16s are already limited with armament and sometimes (like adf) in CM department. Only thing that would justify that change is making airby matches 10v10 but that’s not gonna happen
They should allow us if we want to take regular CMs or Large CMs and not be forced by visual model represented in game.
Some players like the large CM benefits, some like having more count.
I doubt f-16 is that hot so you get major advantage of small amount but large cm. Can anybody report that?
PW F-100 and GE F-110 run a bit hot even if they are single engine.
I think allowing us to choose what type of flares to run would be more beneficial regardless.
PooBIT always had 90

This is from live server
Due to the fact to pobit is just an upgraded early model it doesn’t have the 120 the f16c has. Hopefully at some point we can have a block 50 pobit so we have better fm and more cms
What even is this nonsense?
Wait until you find out that the F-16C block 50 currently at 13.7 is also getting it’s CMs reduced to 90.
I don’t think you know what you are talking about.
Glad I will still have my israeli F-16 versions with usable CM amounts…
F-16s are already mediocre due to limited loadouts, they should be given BOL pods usable on missile pylons at least
dunno if the pylon adapting the amraam pylon to the wing is compatible with with the design. though, it is quite proven that bol is actually pretty modular. only problem would be proving that the specific rail + pylon is actually able to understand/transmit these signals to and from the mother aircraft. i don’t think i’ve seen LAU-129 (marvin) specifically be used with BOL sadly
You could use the Chinese J15T cope in this regard for the F16s where this guy literally says SAAB is a unfaithful company yet demands to be given their ESTL pod lol.
Still doesn’t fix the reduced load out factor but you could make the argument that you could place it on the interior pylons so it would give you MAW and access to all your missile pylons.
This arguement is weak or misleading; Polish Fulcrums are partially MiG-29G NATO-ised MiG-29’s, whilst the other part were likely also upgraded to comply with NATO standards. The fact that the SNIPER version exists shows that the aircraft is mostly incompatible with western systems. Another example is that the Ukrainian ones didn’t immediately switch to the NATO weapons, whilst retaining the old pylons and data-format, shows that there is at least some triage and more work than a bolt-on required. SAAB’s introductory statement shouldn’t be read in isolation, as in the same brochure, it’s said:
… The ESTL is on a mission-by-mission installed onto a
missile launcher or via an adapter to a bomb-rack or other
aircraft hard-point. …
While I do agree that J-15 has a very low countermeasure count, broadly adding stuff like this doesn’t feel right, and shouldn’t be the way about fixing problems some aircraft have (be it through not being implemented or being implemented incorrect). Also, J-15T can survive in the current bracket, just won’t thrive most of the time, it’s gonna be second fiddle, like most other jets around that tier, compared to the crazy stuff.
Is that ever gonna stop cope though? Why not just immediately insult the company you want equipment from are you telling me that’s not an effective way to get my argument across? Shocker lmao yeah I was pretty sure most of the post was written with little to no actual info in mind
rushed and underinformed? hinging on a broad quote found on a brochure’s cover-page, and a mig from a nato country. I assume y’all clowned on em?
Nah it got taken down pretty quickly
I’m pretty sure the f16 blk 50 was built with 120 internal, complete bs there changing it.
I could be very wrong, and I’m sure some of the more knowledgable people about it on the forum will correct me in that case, but afaik a single ALE-47 dispenser can hold either 30 normal sized or 15 large sized countermeasures, and these seem to be pretty modular (so no aircraft seems to be stuck with a set amount).
The F-16C seems to have 4 dispensers, which Gaijin has modeled as 2x 15 large countermeasures + 2x 30 normal countermeasures. Which gives the 90 we have in game. (Like I said, if I’m wrong I’m sure some of the knowledgable people here will correct me with some sources).
That’s how it’s setup. That’s also why all the other F16 went to ,45 half got changed to large and the other became small
F16C is at the correct amount for the new system
Yea I’ve heard that, I wish they would let us be modular with the modular system
This is true. The AN/ALE-47 (and to an extent, earlier dispensers such as the AN/ALE-45) can carry 1x30 bucket with flares, firing the M206 cartridge.
It would be nice to have us choose between the two from having 15 large CM or 30 regular CM. Most might run the regular CM for all dispensers unless you’re flying something like the Barak II or Sufa, which have more integral CMs.


