That comes from people who have played both, the Typhoons radar is not good at the moment and underperforming quite a bit
Rafale, Su-27 and Typhoon all have fairly equal IRST at the moment. (should also be noted that German Typhoons do not have IRST and Germany is more heavily played than Britain and Italy combined)
i mean it is compared to the IRL version
Its not fast how Gaijin claim it is,it lacks insane thrust compared to the IRL one,stalls non stop and breaks apart at 1.8 km without heavy payload,fuel tanks badly modeled and so on
Feel more like 12.0 plane with 14.0 missiles and thats it
Idk what it is compare to irl i just know its great plane with alot of thrust and desreved to be 14.0 bcuz of the fm and not just the missiles
It lack proper performance to be at 14.0
loses every dogfight cause of it
It it wasnt for the radar and missiles it legit would be so bad no one would have played it
Its not about offensive ordinances but about Flight Model which its different
And best at bvr which is much better then being best at df on fix 3 meta
Still not an excuse of lacking performance model
Ofc if its incorrect then it should be fixed and followed up with br change if needed but in the current state its great at 14.0
If you follow the logic of “it cant win a dogfight therefore it must be a lower BR” logic to an extreme degree, then the Tornado F3 would be about 10.7 instead of 12.0 and the Tornado F3 Late would be about 12.0 and not 13.0 (and even then, its FM is the same as the early F3)
There is no chance for a Tornado F3 to beat a Gripen A in a Dogfight and yet they are the same BR.
The F-15C performs more than well enough to compete with the other 14.0s in game currently, and compared to a lot of the 13.7s and especially those it can see below… Would be a good start to decompressing 12.7+ which is a total mess currently.
Last few times i’ve tried to play 13.0 Ive been uptiered against F-15C/Es that dominate like they use to last year and it just isnt fun. Sure they cant compete with a Typhoon in a dogfight, but they can more than compete in a BVR fight against them.
Never said it should be lower br,no one said it,lmfao i only said it feels like flighting a lower br plane with 14.0 ordinance
Why the F15E breaks apart at 1.9 kmh with no heavy loadout?No one knows
Why does the F15E or any variants for what i am aware of lack proper fuel models and lacks thrust from the engine?
Why cant i go vertical and sustain speed without stalling?No one knows
Why shouldnt be faster like it was supposed to do?No one knows
F15C is fine at its current br the whole decompression thing was so 13.0s and 13.7s dont have to fight rafales or typhoon which in bvr will beat you they have stronger missiles and stronger radars the F15E is 14.0 for a reason one it has a better radar and AIM-120C5s
F15C under any circumstances should not be facing RAFALES and Typhoons even SU30s would be a struggle it does not have the radar or the missiles to compete at BVR
and most 13.0s can face the F15C no problem for example the SU27 R27ERs speed allows it to compete relatively easily
Still doesnt mean it should be an F111F with AOA mode
Refering to the F15E
Just leave it at 14.0 and make it the proper model for it…
and im of the opinion that no 12.7-13.0 and even a few 13.3s shouldnt be facing the F-15
its completely fine at 13.7s there are far stronger planes than it at its br
thats just your standard gaijin compression half the 13.0s ingame should not be 13.0
F15E its 14.0 lol
Flight model its bad,no reason to use offensive ordinance as excuse for lacking proper perfomance in game
yeah its hole purpose is BVR theres no need to dogfight in it
So once again its Gaijin excuse to nerf US as best it can huh?
its perfectly fine at 14.0 compared to other 14.0s its equal look at the mirage 2000
mirage 2000 with mica is absolutely a better plane than f15e
depends on your play style the MIRAGE 2000 F5 is basically the oppisite of a F15E instead of prioritizing speed and BVR performance its more of a WVR plane dogfighting with micas
wouldnt say its better more its suited for a completely different play style