Now F14B is very worse, have a 9km ACM, have a HND PD and TWS only, No IRCM missile in uptier that have long range ACM, all aspect PD radar and TWS, modern FOX 3 and IRCM missile. AIM-54 also useless agianst 14.0 BR that people know how to evade it. its op aginnst newbie F4S player or plane thats have a bad RWR and who dont know how to evade it. thats why people hate it and want to move it up, and now its always facing full uptier or the time. I think 12.0 - 13.0 should be a early fourth generation figther and late modernization third generationfigther and sperate for 13.3-14.0 to be fair. Some people they want to play Fox 1 and IRCM missile style just like the ole time, not every one who want to facing Fox 3 very time, Finally its would be nice to see Early F15 , F16 , F18 , F14 , Early SU 27 , Mig29 , Mig 25 figth with fox 1 and IRCM missile (also Mig25 long rang against F14 to be fiar)
in BR 12.0-13.0. (F-16 ADF add AIM-9M , Mig29A add R73 and remove R27ER , F-14A add AIM-9L , F-14B add AIM-9M)
The f14 is one of the best 13.0s, but i do agree that atm all 14.0s should at least be 14.7, imo the worst 13.0 is the kfir c10, you get 4 very short range fox3s, no irccm missiles and meh amount of flares and not a good flight model for the br, like the FM was fine at like idk, 11.0 but at 13.0 everything out dogfights you anyways, i mean this plane could not be moved down in br but imo other planes arround it should go up
just lol to all that, saying the kifirc10 is the worse 13.0 while the f14b is one of the best is wild
f14b should get aim9m and f14a aim9l it’s literally a meme at this point, and the aim54s are always going to be trash as long as we have tdm on small maps, the Persian tomcat can get r73
standard decompression example, which Gaijin refuses to do for literally years at this point, only the bare minimum, not not upset the playerbase to much, and still earn from the pay to progress side.
So I agree, but as long, as Gaijin makes money from people spending money to accelerate the grind, compression will always be there, bc that induces the necessity to grind, bc top tier is the only thing that doesn’t get uptiered.
So for me it is either try to revolutionize the monetization of this game, or try to accept it
because its true?
You got it flipped, the F-14B is one of the worse 13.0’s and the Kfir C.10 is one of the better.
how so, having one of the worst fox3s doesnt make it good
The… F-14B gets the worst Fox-3…
Regardless the Kfir is just better suited for the 13.0 MM.
how is the phoenix worse than the derby, the derby is a 10km headon type of fox3 (since its built on the airframe of a ir missile),
the phoenix can attack at range and in case you get a 10km headon shot the f14 carries the sparrow that works fine for that and you also get BOL that you can use to spam chaff missiles, for the br the f14 gets a better kit, the kfir gets like 4 debys and thats it, it doesnt have irccm missiles, it doesnt get a lot of CMs or anything like that, i guess the HMD is fine, i guess i would change my opinion if it got like armrams or something like that bc the derbys are just not it
It’s far better to get the fixes done on AIM-54 than to demand F-14B be moved up to 13.3+ in BR.
One of the things F-14D has over the B is AIM-9Ms, and we know that it’s going to be a higher BR than the current F-14D.
It has IRST though that’s useless in air RB.
It has a slightly better radar, though that’s only useful for the AIM-7s.
So on and so forth.
Mig-25’s BR would never face the F-14s.
Hell no f15a is 13.0 and it has aim 9m
The F-15A needs to move up as well, mentioning it only proves my point.
It rly dont
At least not in the current compression state
It doesnt have fox 3 and unlike su 27/33 it doesnt have equivlant to r27er to even try to fight against them
Once again proving my point.
what point bro you just start an inflammatory comment that literally makes no sense like, there were a ton of upgrades from the B to D tomcat bro if you’re ignorant to them that’s on you but giving the f14b a CONTEMPORARY missile that is faces EVERY SINGLE GAME wouldn’t make it pointless. And the mig25/mig31 are literally going to be garbage because warthunder isn’t designed for them (although the mig25 was never really good)
@coffee_can-psn
There is nothing inflammatory about saying decompression is necessary, and wanting to fix the F-14B’s weapon systems.
What is inflammatory is accusing people of being things and attacking people for bug reporting F-14s.
you stated it should go up if it received aim9ms, it should not, you also stated it would make the d redundant, it would not. and the mig31 has no ability to dogfight whatsoever and with warthunder’s map size you’re literally not going to be able to use the r33 effectively leaving you just r77s and r73s of which there are better platforms, and that’s if it gets the BM
Don’t start with this disingenuous argument again. We already had it and you were shown how the F-14D would still be an upgrade over the B.
F14B getting 9M would be fine as it wouldnt make the D pointless D Model had more than just 9M it had a better radar new avionics Aim54C ECCM SEALED which would have better tracking also would get better sparrows Aim7-P as the apg-71 had a data link system for unlike the awg-9 which only had DL for pheniox