F14A Late AnD F14D

Its a bit of an interesting discussion tbh.

The F-14D would historically get the AIM-7P iirc, which would be a great missile to compete with the R-27ER that’s been in the game for over a year now since it includes (afaik) a datalink and trajectory shaping (for better range and energy retention), but gaijins not adding it yet, which means its likely gonna be on the F-14D, and not the AMRAAM.

On the other hand, the F-14D has a good claim to getting the AIM-120 in WT, and will likely need it to compete due to the mix of the hypercrutch that is excessive multipath, since gaijin doesnt think it would be “fair” for players to have to learn to fight BVR missiles properly, and therefore makes flight performance king, and the fact that it will get placed at a BR where everyone else gets AMRAAM, MICA RF, R-77, etc…

Could go either way. My bet is gaijin gives it the 7P and tells everyone to shut up and kick rocks, cuz that’s their usual go-to.

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Well with AMRAAMS next update i see it getting AMRAAMS

Although I understand this, I do think it is a tad bit ridiculous to only give the F-14D 7Ps while also adding it this late. The best way to describe my thoughts is “too little- too late” because the R27ER is already in the game and adding the F-14D without the AMRAAMs we know are coming in the next update is ridiculous. It would be DoA.

All this said, I would agree with your bet, and would not bet against you. Odds are they do just say “Kick rocks kid”. It is generally a theme with the losing major nation, unless they are Russia.

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I don’t think the Iranian F-14 belongs in the U.S. tech tree, at least not the late “AM” model.

Nah, at most I can see them “buffing” the AIM-54C’s maneuvrability to 25g, giving us some dumb excuse like “we found new documentation (even though they’ve had a ton of documentation about it being 25g capable years ago and it was originally added to the dev server back with the AIM-54A as a 25G missile)” and calling it a day without fixing any of its other issues.

The old abuser trick of treating you utterly awful, then doing a single, tiny nice thing, and pretending you’re the crazy one for still being mad.

Then it belongs no where. No other nation should receive it, just as no other nation should have received the T-90 or T-80 or Mi-28N or Gripen(Looking at you, Sweden and GB)

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What TT would it go to? All the weapons, sensors, and the airframe used are all US made. They can’t even use russian missiles from the looks of it, and there isnt another allied country in-game either.

Even the “unique” modification of the Hawk missile is still a US missile.

Should go to either its own tree housing Iran or the USSR as many of its weapons were replaced with Soviet weapons and electronics, also not to mention political relations between the two.

The Late being an eventual squadron makes a lot of sense, especially because between the Early and B there’s not much need for it in the tech tree.
The F-14D is certainly going to be tech tree, likely 12.3 or 12.7 depending on if it gets AIM-7Ps and later 9Ms.

Plot twist, it’s a pre-MSIP-II F-15C and doesn’t get any flares

Sidenote to that, gaijins habit of adding secondary nation “lines” into tech tree’s as “gap fillers” is lazy and ruins game variety. I dont mind if the actual nation operated it, but adding “sub-nations” is terrible. Particularly in sim, where immersion is broken and confusion is had because there is literally no way to distinguish enemy planes from friendlies except IFF on your radar. Gaijin hasn’t even bothered modelling IFF symbols on HUDs…

They literally weren’t, I already covered that. Also, iirc gaijin stated in the past it would not go to the USSR either, as there was no evidence of any involvement in the F-14 from the USSR.

A. Iran will never get it’s own tree.
B. The F-14AM is an American vehicle through and through with little to no practical modification that gives reason to have it anywhere else. The Iranian tomcat is just an F-14A.

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I agree. Only adding unique things should be the reason to add sub trees. Not the copy paste that is currently around. But this is an F-14 thread, not a copy paste thread.

I don’t think that means much as they go back on their word a lot. Iran should have its own technology tree as there is quite a bit there, much more than Israel in fact.

Just gonna casually pretend you didnt read the part where the F-14AM’s don’t have any proof of ever using anything but 1960’s vintage US missiles I guess?

The Iranians claim a lot of things about their F-14’s, but the only thing we know for sure is they still operate AIM-9J/P’s, AIM-7-E2’s, and AIM-54A’s, and are still flying sometimes.

We have sub tree so we get its vechiles

Simple as

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Not really a issue.

Let’s say gajin improve maneuvrability AIM-54A & AIM-54C 17G ~ 25G in 2nd major update

You guess F-14A Early and F-14B increase BR for Air RB & Air SB higher 11.7 & 12.0 ?

But gajin not forgot add AIM-9M on F-14B

I might expect F-16A Block 15 ADF (ITA) get AIM-120B, F-16A Block 20 MLU (ROCAF) and F-16C Block 50 (USAF) received AIM-120C-5 at the same time but for F-16A Block 20 MLU decompress to 12.7 BR

I’m not sure F-16A Block 15 ADF from ANG gajin consider armed AIM-120A & AIM-120C-5 or AIM-120A only

Except F-14D access SARH MRAAM AIM-7P, BVRAAM AIM-54C & AIM-54C ECCM it’s enough


kind of is when its the basis for your argument as to why the russians should get it…

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