It certainly is effective and can effecfively kite 5 people , i just mean its not able to play how it would in a 1v1 which is to bleed the enemy, however thr mig19 certainly stomps every single 10.0 in game right now bar in tbe missile department.
All of these jets used to be 10.0 before the a10 and su25 woth all aspects forced them down.
So, no the mig19 is not struggling against 10.0s at all. Though it isnt easy to fly either dont get me wrong it needs to be played a specific way, but if you play it that way youre nearly untouchable.
Same as the mirage f1 ?? Its not that bad to notch the f14, dont fly straight towards the enemy at the start n you usually dont come across the missiles any way.
The issue is the f104 fm now just cannot compete even in a slight uptier, its not got that speed advantage at that br, and now its been butchered it cannot fight at all.
It is void of nuance and context. They only care about specific stats and don’t try to find out why said stats are the way they are, they just use knee jerk flow charts and algorithms to arbitrarily place vehicles around. You go on to say later in this comment that they uptiered the J35XS, a fighter jet, because it was gaining too much SCORE. They BALANCE vehicles based around how much SCORE you get and not how GOOD those vehicles actually are. They also make rash decisions without any foresight shown here blatantly by what they did to the J35XS.
Balanced off of, and if i remember from back when, they said over all battle effectiveness.
Arb is not TDM and the attack of ground units / bases constitutes towards a vehicles battle effectiveness aka overall score and influence in a battle.
So now look, the draken, used by many, bot farmer’s, farmers and players, ends up over BR’d due to being used for striking bases.
This action done by thousands, if not tens of thousands of players constitutes to its battle effectiveness, showing it to have more of an effect on the battle than it actually can have in an air to air roll.
The flow charts and what not make sense if you know how to read them.
Its also a far slower air frame with far worse acceleration that cannot sustain dodging many missiles.
You mentioned the rwr without context saying you need to use it and your eyes. When you can use a weak rwr to get the general direction then go cold.
Now as ive already said multiple times, after the nerfs the f104s at the higher brs i believe are no longer usable, they cannot sustain the fight at all, cannot out run anytbing as most jets even one step up are the same speed or faster. Do not have a suitable long range missile, if any, and cannot get into positions to use the IR missiles they have.
Im in agreement that these jets are objectively now no longer effective at their brs.
You keep using the word nuance which is totally incorrect for the situation of what i stated that the rwr on the mirage will give you the same pings, which is more than enough to go cold, Especially with a starfighter, to said missile. Not if you’re swarmed but not many jets rwr or not can manage that and come out on top.
Of course, what im meaning by what i said though was gaijin say they balance off of statistics of performance of vehicles.
But arbitrarily moved the mk24 down in anticipation of the sabers and migs moving down.
Meaning they will balance specific vehicles when needed.
As other seem to think they balance randomly, which it feels like sometimes but them moving the mk24 down to prevent it combating migs and sabers shows that they are acrually aware of what they are doing for the most part.
The post is not about these planes, it was the first thing I made very clear and explicit in the publication, I don’t know why you are insisting on the part that goes off topic
You’ve got to be kidding what you’re talking about. You must have a kDA of 3 with the Mig19. Please upload a YouTube video and show me that unique way to play it.
It’s a plane that just holds and turns somewhat better than average, but has no flares or good missiles.
It is F8u2, Hunter, A5c and at low altitude a10 and su25 fodder. to name a few.
ARB quite literally is TDM thanks to gaijin removing almost all influence on the match for bombers/attackers. Games are very rarely decided by the miniscule something like 5% a base bleeds from tickets. Bombers are just treated as afk planes that are food for fighters atm.
It has zero effect on the battle. It just earns RP/SL to rocket a base.
F-104 doesnt have good energy retention OR turning now so idk what you’re complaining about. Mirage F1 can definitely avoid missiles just fine without much issue. F-104 cannot.
There is zero reason to keep comparing to the Mirage F1 anyway. It’s not relevant.
compared to python, magic II, pl5C and r73, yes this one is mediocre…
You only argue using false equivalence, and constantly stray from the topic.
The main issue being debated is the f104G onwards… mainly the f104S…
and as you said before, it’s precisely the part of the topic where you can’t give your opinion…
If you can’t contribute to the topic, or at least stay in it, I don’t know why you’re here.
Probably only F-104A/C, F-104J, F-104S.ASA have major problems with F-104 BR.
Compare to other aircrafts which has same BR, G model except ROCAF one is fine.
Maybe, regular S model has problem but, It is trivial compared to the F-104A/C and F-104S.ASA.
None of the ones you mentioned are in the same range (11.3-12.3) as the f104S.
They are 13.0 aircraft with exceptional flight performance, with avionics suitable for the br, which allow them to have full situational awareness and perform evasive maneuvers.
Completely different situation and completely not equivalent to the f104 situation.
You and I have agreed on most things. So it’s weird for your post to imply you don’t agree with most of your own takes…
Just cause we vocally disagree on a tiny amount of things doesn’t discount how much we agree.