Hot take, KH38mts has no US ground counter. At least the Russian tree has the pantsir that can actively shoot down slow mavericks. You can sit there in an adats, see the KH38s launched and literally do nothing. They work through smoke so that’s not even an option. You go up in an eagle or falcon and you have to deal with both the fastest SAM, and a or multiple SU-xx at the same time. It’s pretty lop sided at the moment to be honest. The best US cas can do is try and scout the pantsir within 5 seconds of spawning, throw out multiple mavs and then hope to have enough time to deal with the air threat. It’s really not fun having to hug the ground and have no use of JDAMS and Paveways while the Russian equivalent has ample time to launch all of their ordinance.
That’s what current war thunder top tier basically looks like. I don’t think adding better ordinance is going to help the f-18 but I do think a dedicated 13.0 SPAA will change gameplay immensely
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Double pylons are a thing only on the SU-27SM3 and maybe SU-35, but I don’t think they were ever mounted on the SU-30SM which is what I meant
The only aircraft we have proof of carrying the double pylons are the Su-35S the Su-27SM3 just get the two Hardpoints I understand what you meant just want to clarify for others
Let’s just have PATRIOT systems constantly firing at CAS players the second they spawn in. Every BR too, just for the LOLs. I mean, imagine spawning in your 1.0 Gladiator, just to be smacked by a freedom missile.
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SLAM is the KH38 equivalent, and no agm 65 and kh38 are in no way shape or form equivalents, agm 65 is slower and weaker.
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swedish f18 gets nothing cause it used nothing. there is a reason american is designated as F/A18c and not f18c. be mad at gaijin for not adding the upgrade that allows it to have hmd and A/G
Except it literally does. One look at Wikipedia, and wowsers, it gets ordnance! If Finland doesn’t get it, neither should America.
Only with the MLU 2 upgrade
MLU 2 gets ordinance. The oldest Late model F-18C in warthunder is the Finnish as its from 1994 with removed A2G computers and arrestor hook mounts. MLU 2 restored these features with new lightweight computers.
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Air-to-Surface missile:
AGM 154
AGM 148A
AGM 88G
General-purpose bombs:
GBU-31
°BLU-117
°GBU-31V1
GBU-31V3/BLU-109
GBU-32
GBU-38
°BLU-111
GBU-53
GBU-39
Source: Finnish Air Force - Wikipedia
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Again MLU 2 not MLU 1 and not prior to MLU 1
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Yeah, AFTER the MLU 2 upgrade, which is NOT the one ingame
The best SPAA ingame: Pantsir (Russia)
The best CAS: SU-34 (Soviet-union,Russia)
The best Air-to-Ground missile: KH-38 (Russia)
ERA that eats Mavericks for dinner (Russia)
Autoloader that acts like spall liner: Russia
Crazy how you ignore all this facts and say Muh Most broken AGM is American.
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Then give Finland the upgrade. Not that bloody difficult. Oh wait, I forget, Sweden needs to be screwed over. I forget, this game cannot allow any country to outshine America.
Best CAS is not Su-34. If you’re being slaughtered by that thing, it’s just a skill issue. Use a SPAA, it’s not that difficult to beat it.
Best CAS is indeed the Su-34 with the broken KH-38MT
I expected a reply like this from someone like you honestly.
What SPAA?
It’s pretty difficult to defeat it when you get an SPAA like the ADATS
Soon it would be the SU-30SM
+forgot to add that the nation that got the best ground lineup ever is RUSSIA!
This is what finland CURRENTLY operates, which is the F/A18c, because they had the MLU 2 Upgrade done to it
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It’s been confirmed to come as seperate vehicle already, in some later update
Most likely around December or next year as it likely will only be added when Aim 120 C-7 and 9X are here so that it can be different from the US C model Late.
AESA and BR would be sufficient difference. No need for such missiles