Wish Germany techtree take Swiss version or Canadian version.Germany techtree has been lacking efficient CAS capabilities for a long time.F4ICE and Tornado just are palliatives.
Well, they could potentially model more advanced Flare compositions (kinematic flares; e.g. MJU-50 & -51 delay onset of some types of IRCCM as they retain aircraft’s momentum for longer). and there is the ALE-37A/A (as found on the AV-8A) as an option.
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I’ll respectfully disagree. The aircraft has no business flying high or doing things that would really require the use of a bunch of chaff anyway.
Weak.
The ALE-37 pod seems like one of those all-encompassing solutions for a lot of countermeasure-related problems on western jets in-game.
Too little flares? Slap an ALE-37 on that bad boi! Too many flares? Still slap an ALE-37 on, because you can never have too many! No evidence for integration on a specific airframe? From what I’ve heard, it was compatible with any NATO-standard pylon!
Canadian one will definitely go to GBR
Or to the US,
It all depends on whether Gaijin think its a capability improvement over the current SAAF Gripen. Equally the Australian one has a unique British feature which is ASRAAM and has the benefit of having BOL rails too. But the Canadian one is more unique and has much better skins and also RAF style skins.
he has a point, F18 engine relatively has lower fuel consumption (we has F18 engine in the game - F20 and its variant as Gripen’s). So, try to have optimal amount of fuel (20m fuel of F16 is not equivalent of 20m fuel of F18 since the afterburner takes different rate), it will be a beast of TWR.
no, the F/A-18A never got amraam the A+ got it, which is a different desegnation.
No, Hornets of the “A” model upgraded with the AN/APG-73 from the original AN/APG-65 are called the “A+”. The F-18A w/ AMRAAMs is not an A+ without the radar upgrade.
It is a '92 year initial upgrade. The F-18C w/ the same radar as the F-18A were able to fire amraams from '85.
The F-18A in its most basic form cannot fire them, but as with the rest of the navy planes there is a long and convoluted upgrade history.
Ultimately I don’t see the point in making people grind a F-18 without fox-3s and if they’re gonna add fox-3s it won’t be super lethal without AIM-9M and a HMS as well.
People want it to dominate… but the F-18A doesn’t need to have a niche, it can be equally as useful as an F-16ADF and add variety to the tech tree instead. Though the amraams wouldn’t really be out of place either.
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I guess a less performant F/A-18 would be seen as a sidegrade to the F-4E / F-14B for (ARB & GRB) CAS duties due to advanced F&F ordnance in the 11.3~12.3 bracket and replace the A-7E wholesale due to the improved Self-Escort capabilities provided by the A2A radar and Sparrow / AIM-9L.
It’s effective niche is that the F/A-18 will have better ordnance options than the equivalent F-4 / F-14 / F-15 / F-16. The only airframes that could effectively out do it in the strike role is the F-16XL or F-15E simply due to station count.
F/A-18A+ armed GBU-31(V)2/B & GBU-38(V)2/B JDAM like USMC AV-8B Night Attack & AV-8B+ Harrier II, F/A-18C/D and F/A-18E Blk I ? 🤔
Personally, I think it is somewhat unlikely that the developers would make the F/A-18A while they are already working on the F/A-18C.
Obviously it will be added at some point, but it may not be the first U.S. F/A-18 in game.
I’m not entirely sure, it should be able to if a GPS antenna is present.
Well the F-16A-10 would effectively redundant if they modeled the -15ADF properly by providing it access to the A2G stores it should have access to.
I don’t know the early variant of USN legacy hornet in the future, gajin working F/A-18A or F/A-18C (late 80’s) model for USA tech tree
F/A-18C/D 90’s not integraded GPS/INS precision-guided munitions until 2000’s ~ present
F/A-18A+ in 2000’s armed AIM-9X ?
That is true. But at least we didn’t end up with the US getting F-16As when other countries were getting F-16C/Ds.
We pretty much could have made do with early F-16C’s, since we have fairly suitable Strike platforms (if only Gaijin had implemented them), and with the potential proliferation of even basic Anti-Radiation Missiles, advanced TELARs would have been less of a pressing issue without causing massive power-creep against other match critical target sets like MBTs, and reducing stowed kills per flyout, reducing the felt impact of CAS (Also if they properly implemented Electro Optical Seekers would help, since it would entail a significant range reduction, but confer effectively guaranteed Target tracking in exchange).
Though I do think they rushed the Block 50+, it would have been far better for overall health to add a Block 25 or 30 (outside JDAMs and the TGP an early Block -30 is functional identical in terms of A2G to the current Block 50+ we have in game, and a Late or ANG block 30 is pretty similar), then Block -40 sequentially being interspersed by the F-14A Mid / -B / -D, F-15A / -C, A-7E Late, F/A-18A / -C / -E, etc. All so the variety of Advanced A2G stores and radar modes could have been implemented when it rolled around and somewhat slow the rollout of advanced capabilities to let other nations approximate the pace without needing to rush.
I get that it was probably for the addition of the HMD ( HMD integration for the F-16A, F-14A, F-15A A-7E was investigated, see spoiler below) in order to achieve functional parity, but that now makes anything less than the B-1 / F-15E / F/A-18F effectively either entirely redundant or a side-grade at best. And to some degree Nullifies an advantage that REDFOR sorely needed to retain their edge WVR, especially after the reduction to the multipath height, removed a hard counter to the effectiveness of ubiquitous SARH / ARH carriage.
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I still want a Block 30 early just because it would be the closest we’d get to the F-16N in-game lol
can i get a source on this? iirc the AN/APG-65 can get stingey on if it can direct amraams or even DL them
The addition of the APG-65 radars to the Harriers in 1992 is what allowed them to mount and fire AMRAAM.
The AN/APG-65(V) upgrade (standard with the F-18C since ~85?) allowed them to fire the AMRAAM. All F-18C’s prior to 1992 had the radar, and mounted AMRAAM. Unknown numbers of F-18A were also upgraded in this time period prior to 1992 and may (or may not) have mounted the weapon. My understanding is that once the changes to the radar were made, they no longer supported the older models. They were upgraded during regular maintenance intervals as needed.
The radar was also considered for the SR-71 to mount and fire AMRAAM’s.
@Acroute may know more, but to my knowledge there should be nothing stopping F-18A’s prior to 1992 with the upgraded base model of the APG-65(V) from firing the AIM-120.
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mig23m I just want the f18a with aim7p block2 with dl and ins it would be way more lethal then any aim7 and better then every Sahr missile expect r27er and it would be like at 12.7 fun tier way from fox3 spammers