F/A-18 Hornet (Legacy): History, Performance & Discussion

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Not confirmed at all, but there are a few faint signs.

  • AV-8B+'s APG-65Q displayed on RWR as F-18, while there is no other aircraft uses this radar.
  • Three of the four decals in the previous battle pass are emblems of the VFA-27, VFA-87, and VFA-125 that operated F/A-18. VFA-125 is also notable for being the first U.S. Navy Hornet squadron.
  • F/A-18A and F/A-18C MLU 2 (Finland) suggestions were simultaneously passed to the developers in December.

However this is not a definitive proof. It’s worth keeping an open mind, but I’m not convinced it will happen in few months.

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Doesnt the mirage 4000 have a good chance vs the gripen?

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No, it gets eaten alive by the S key currently… Maybe a topic for another thread tho.

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Just so everyone knows, the f18 is mig_23’s favourite plane.

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How my guy?? Its heavier than all F-16 and has a weaker thrust to weight than all of them.
Explain it.

F-16C
Mach 2 1,500 mph
Empty weight: 19,700 pounds

F-18C
Mach 1.8
Empty weight: 23,000lb

How will it have a better sustained turn rate? Its less aerodynamic and weighs more with weak thrust to weight.
Let me guess you ran some test?

Dude literally making it up as he goes.

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I don’t think soon

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We tested it when I played with Feety, its a heavy girl, but looked like it would do ok, at first but Feety caught me once the dogfight got slow.

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Okay, yeah. I havent fought a lot of mirage 4000 but i remember it was kind of hard to kill at the beginning of the fight

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Must you drag this off topic with bait?

I recommend y’all review the primary source material available for the F-18 via the NSAID reports. The sustained turn rate for conditions is given, and it is superior to some F-16 variants… I fail to see how y’all are saying it will only rely on high alpha.

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It’s does not have controllable canards like the Typhoon unfortunately… They are fixed like a Kfir, so they cause unwanted drag in a rate.

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Wait… so when you say the gripen is identical to the mirage 2000 then its fact that stands above everyone including millenium 7.

But when i say the mirage 4000 is a eurofighter then its bait?? What i was trying to help you

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I was discussing Gripen, in Gripen thread. This is unrelated to anything you’ve said, stop baiting and attempting to derail threads. No need to bring your nonsense into the F/A-18 thread… the discussion is on the topic of the F/A-18s engine and performance.

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He is not capable of explaining how a heavier F-18C is going to outrate the lighter, smaller, far better thrust to weight, more aerodynamically equipped F16.

Sure, it might have a better sustained turn rate at 200 knots at landing speed for a moment, but will immediately die out in any real kinetic dogfight engagement because it has no thrust to weight comparable to any F-16.

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Yep. I think it would take at least two or more updates.

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@acroute posted the wonderful references for us all the way back up near the top…

There is plenty of available performance data for comparisons, I’m not making this stuff up or guessing at all. There is no “I think–”… It simply performs as im saying because I am referencing real data.

At 60% fuel with 2x AIM-9 and 2x AIM-120 performs on par with a clean F-16C w/ 30 minutes fuel.

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So it is even better than an f16 then?

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That’s not what I said, no.

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Yeah ever since i saw the documentary top gun maverick i realized this plane is just the best

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Wouldnt this mean that its better?

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This is all an entire interpretation based on study regarding the F-18 E/F

My guy will literally grab numbers, obscure them from one source add them to another source like this.

Where does it say anything about an F-16C w/30 min fuel??

No where in the entire source.

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