especially the super hornet it has an even lower TWR
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The Super Hornet has better operational thrust to weight at certain payloads, but it is not much further behind the F-18C at empty, like 1.37:1 or so.
There is no flight manual (performance section) for the Hornet with the 402 engine. It is classified.
But in this doc we see 21 sec
vs 17.5 sec in the game
14% difference. 21 vs 17.5 in the game. I just checked this acceleration. It hasn’t changed for the F/A-18 Late.
So your arguments are again far-fetched. You can’t go against the numbers.
It’s exactly 14% difference whether we’ll overtake F-15C and F-16C/MiG-29A or lag behind them.
what is the top speed for F-18C with 4 missiles and 60% fuel, we have that data
What does maximum speed have to do with it? We’re talking about acceleration and climb rate.
Indeed, but if the maximum speed is incorrect, that can be fixed, and it nearly always effects acceleration and climb rate too, if its overperforming in speed like rafale is, its likely overperforming elsewhere.
Tell this video your nonsense. Because in that case this full loaded Su-33 (9 tons of fuel + 12 AA missles) should fly 3 mach at sea level with such thrust and acceleration if it can accelerate to takeoff speed up a hill over a distance of 20 meters…
Boo hoo lmao
its not 1.37 lmao its likely less than 1
According to…?
Last I checked it weighed around ~32,000 pounds empty and made ~44,000 lb-f thrust static
Devs have already stated the GAO report has some inaccuracies, besides, acceleration and top speed performance is not adjusted based on payloads in-game.
Acceleration of the F-18A and C/early is correct per the manual, the increase in thrust is extrapolated from real world installed thrust data from the GE-400 model. If you think it is erroneous feel free to make a report.
Interestingly, the F-5 series IS considerably overperforming according to the NATOPS and they have determined it is not in their best interest to fix it anyway.
So the Su-27 was fixed only a year later, when there were planes for the blue that could out-turn it, such as the Eurofighter and Rafale. In short, everything is clear. The developer reads the documents only as it is convenient for him. And it doesn’t matter that the Su-33 takes off with a full load from a distance of 20 meters. And it doesn’t matter what the GAO documents say or the F-5’s Natops. What’s the argument about then? It will still be done as it is convenient for the developer and not as in reality.
So I’m going to leave and leave this forum to stew in your own juice.
But I still stand by my opinion, the opinion that the acceleration chart in DCS is made for the Hornet with the 402 engine much more correctly.
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It wasn’t fixed, it is still underperforming due to the high drag and high thrust situation.
Yeah, you’re mad about nothing.
Please don’t stew in my juice that sounds rather gross.
The F-18 in War Thunder has better installed thrust figures than DCS apparently, the DCS data is quite outdated anyway as it was extrapolated loosely from data that itself was extrapolated from their calculated model.
Any tips for the F18C early?
mostly just abuse multipath
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So the usual for fox 1 slimgers
usual for everyone in game with ultimate multipath)
I did tests of the F-18 competitor, the MiG-29 9-12.
So, more likely this is not a dynamic Hornet, this is a not dynamic MiG-29 9-12.
If you open the “practical aerodynamics of the MiG-29 aircraft”, you can see that the 9-12 weighing 14,200 kg should accelerate from 660 to 1020 km/h (350-550 knots) at an altitude of 1 km in 10 seconds, but in the game it does this exercise in 12 seconds.
Further, at the very beginning, on page 12, acceleration with 80% remaining fuel (fuel consumption 20%) is indicated, acceleration from 600 to 1100 km/h in 13.5 seconds, in the game it does this exercise in 16 seconds.
So, most likely, both the F16c Block 50 and the F-15с also suffer from insufficient dynamics compared to the Hornet.
Here you have 2-3 seconds of difference where the hornet is superior to the opponents. The opponents are simply not tuned in.
I did bug report
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2SvPmiiBjK5j
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you should probably also post this in the mig-29 thread
So the MiG-29 supposedly underperforming automatically means the F-15 and F-16 also do? That seems like poor logic.
Feel free to share the related pages on the MiG-29 forum thread.
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