F/A-18 Hornet (Legacy): History, Performance & Discussion

Boeing: fa-18-super-hornet

Super Hornet Technical Specifications

Empty Weight F/A-18E: 32,100 lb (14,552 kg) Max Takeoff Weight 66,000 lb (29,937 kg)
Thrust Each engine up to 17,000 lbs Carrier Bringback Payload F/A-18E: 9,900 lb (4,491 kg) F/A-18F: 9,000 lb (4,082 kg)
Field Landing Weight Field Landing Weight Speed Mach 1.6

Boeing themselves say Mach 1.6 so I’m guessing the manual you found was more speculative.
Or Boeing’s website is wrong, I mean the listed field landing weight is literally “Field Landing Weight”, hard to say really.

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Ah man… You beat me to reposting my own topic
Was planning to do it at some point but thanks nonetheless
EDIT: If you would be kind enough, can you credit me as original maker of this topic (that was on old forums)?

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He can also delete it and allow you to post your own topic if he wishes, something y’all will have to figure out.

@TyphoonCro and I have come to the agreement that I can continue to keep this topic so long as I give credit, which I have done at both the top of the post as well as in the disclaimer at the end.

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Yep, 1.6 is much more realistic.

Basic specifications for legacy F/A-18.

Crew: 1 (A/C) or 2 (B/D)
Length: 56 ft (17.07 m)
Wingspan:

  • 40.4 ft (12.31 m) w/ missile
  • 38.4 ft (11.7 m) w/o missile
  • 37.5 ft (11.43 m) w/o missile and launcher

Height: 15.3 ft (4.66 m)
Wing area: 400 sq ft (37.17 m²)
Aspect ratio: 3.52
Weights:

  • F/A-18A/B:
  • 21,830 lbs (9,900 kg) empty
  • 51,900 lbs (23,540 kg) maximum takeoff
  • F/A-18C/D:
  • 23,000 lbs (10,433 kg) empty
  • 51,900 lbs (23,540 kg) maximum takeoff

Fuel:

  • Internal:
  • F/A-18A/C: 10,860 lb (4,925 kg)
  • F/A-18B/D: 10,160 lb (4,608 kg)
  • External: 7,000 lb (3,175 kg) with 3× FPU-8/A fuel tanks

Powerplant:

  • 2× F404-GE-400
  • 16,000 lbf (71.2 kN) maximum
  • 10,600 lbf (47.2 kN) intermediate
  • 2x F404-GE-402 (F/A-18C/D Lot 14 Block 36 and after)
  • 17,600 lbf (78.2 kN) maximum
  • 11,000 lbf (48.9 kN) intermediate

Performance for F404-GE-400 aircrafts:

  • Never exceed speed: Mach 1.8
  • Altitude: 50,000 ft (15,250 m)
  • Climb rate: 50,000 ft/min (254 m/s)
  • Acceleration time: less than 120 seconds from Mach 0.8 to 1.6
  • Lift-off speed: 115 knot (213 km/h)
  • Approaching speed: 140 knot (260 km/h)

Armament:

  • Hardpoints: 9 total (2× wingtip, 4× under wing, 3× fuselage)
  • Gun: 1× M61A1 20 mm gun (578 rounds)
  • Air-to-air Missiles:
  • AIM-9L/M/P-4/P-5/S/X Sidewinder (AIM-9P-4/5: SAF F/A-18C/D, AIM-9S: FAF F/A-18C/D)
  • AIM-7F/M/P Sparrow (AIM-7P: USN/USMC)
  • AIM-120 AMRAAM (all F/A-18 with AN/APG-73 radar)
  • AIM-132 ASRAAM (RAAF F/A-18A/B HUG Phase 1)
  • IRIS-T (EF-18M)
  • Air-to-ground missiles:
  • AGM-45 Shrike (USN/USMC)
  • AGM-65E/F Maverick
  • AGM-84E SLAM (USN/USMC)
  • AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER (USN/USMC)
  • AGM-88 HARM
  • AGM-158A JASSM (RAAF F/A-18A/B HUG, FAF F/A-18C/D MLU Phase 2)
  • KEPD 350 (EF-18M)
  • Guided bombs:
  • AGM-62 Walleye (USN/USMC until 1997)
  • AGM-154C JSOW
  • BPG-2000 Paveway III (EF-18M)
  • GBU-10/12/16 Paveway II
  • GBU-24B/B Paveway III
  • GBU-31/32/38 JDAM
  • Guided rockets:
  • APKWS II (USMC)
  • Unguided bombs:
  • Mk 20 Rockeye cluster bombs (USN/USMC)
  • Mk 82/83/84 general-purpose bombs
  • Mk 82 Snakeye high-drag bombs
  • Mk 83 AIR high-drag bombs
  • Mk 77 incendiary bombs (USN/USMC)
  • Unguided rockets:
  • CRV7 2.75-inch rockets (CF-188A/B)
  • Hydra 70 2.75-inch rockets
  • Zuni 5-inch rockets

Avionics:

  • Radar:
  • Hughes AN/APG-65
  • Hughes AN/APG-73 (all F/A-18C/D and USN/USMC F/A-18A+/B+, RAAF F/A-18A/B HUG Phase 2.1, CF-188A/B IMP, EF-18A+/B+/M)
  • Raytheon AN/APG-79(V)4 (USMC, CF-188A/B HEP Phase II)
  • RWR:
  • AN/ALR-45F (RAAF F/A-18A/B)
  • AN/ALR-67(V)2
  • AN/ALR-67(V)3 (F/A-18C/D, CF-188 IMP II, RAAF F/A-18 HUG Phase 2.3)
  • ALR-400 (EF-18M)
  • EO sensors:
  • AN/AAS-38/38A/38B NITE Hawk
  • AN/AAQ-28(V)4 LITENING AT (USMC, RAAF F/A-18A/B HUG Phase 2.4, EF-18M, FAF F/A-18C/D MLU Phase 2)
  • AN/AAQ-33 Sniper XR (RCAF CF-18A/B HEP Phase I)
  • AN/AAR-50 TINS (F/A-18C/D since 1988)
  • AN/ASQ-173 LST/SCAM (used in conjunction with AN/AAS-38/38A)
  • AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR (USN/USMC, SAF F/A-18C/D Upgrade 25)
  • ATARS (USMC F/A-18D(RC))
  • HMD: JHMCS (since 2006)
  • Night vision devices: GEC-Marconi Cats Eyes (F/A-18C/D since 1988) or Vision Systems NVCD (for JHMCS)

Countermeasures:

  • Internal: 2× AN/ALE-39 or 4× AN/ALE-47 (F/A-18C/D)
  • External: 4× BOL-500 dispensers (RAAF F/A-18A/B HUG Phase 2.3, FAF F/A-18C/D MLU Phase 2)

Sources
  • Aeroguide 20: McDonnell Douglas F/A-18A Hornet by Roger Chesneau
  • An Illustrated Guide to Modern Fighter Combat (1987) by Mike Spick
  • Aviation Classics issue 23
  • F/A-18 Hornet in action: Aircraft Number 136 by Lou Drendel
  • F-18 Hornet in detail & scale part 1: Developmental & Early Production Aircraft by Don Linn
  • F-18 Hornet in detail & scale part 2: Production Aircraft by Don Linn
  • F/A-18 Hornet in Action No.214 by Lou Drendel
  • McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet (Classic Warplanes) by Mike Spick
  • McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet Owners’ Workshop Manual: 1978 onwards (all marks) by Steve Davies
  • Modern Military Aircraft: Hornet by Lou Drendel
  • Osprey Combat Aircraft Series: F/A-18 Hornet by Lindsay Peacock
  • Walk Around No.18: F/A-18 Hornet by Greg Davis and Chris Neill
  • WarbirdTech Series Volume 31: Boeing F/A-18 Hornet by Brad Elward
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The U.S. Marine Corps F/A-18D(RC), probably one of the most unique Hornet variant.

This is the F/A-18D Hornet with Advanced Tactical Airborne Reconnaissance System (ATARS). The ATARS is basically an reconnaissance system with electro-optical and infrared sensor, among with ability to record high-resolution SAR image in conjunction with AN/APG-73 radar. The M61A1 gun in the nose is removed to provide enough room for ATARS.

It retains all capability as a strike fighter except the 20 mm gun. Since ATARS is not a fixed equipment, it could be reverted to original F/A-18D configuration within few hours.

While there has been controversy over whether the F/A-18 should go below F-14 Tomcat or A-7 Corsair II, I think the F/A-18D(RC) may go below A-7.

The reasons are:

  1. Dedicated U.S. Marine Corps variant; could be placed in same line with USMC Harriers
  2. Better strike fighter than U.S. Navy Hornets; capable of LITENING AT pod
  3. Based on two-seater F/A-18D; distinguished from single-seater F/A-18C
  4. Unique variant with detachable reconnaissance equipment
Results (BR is a placeholder)

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I guess dev might consider F/A-18A fill gap of F-14B, F-14D Tomcat & F/A-18C

F/A-18C better F-14B & F-14D Tomcat

FA-18 will be a great addition to the game, can’t wait.
Canadian version for the Uk? ofc not you wont even give us our own aircraft

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Would be great to see a commonwealth subtree or something similar to that.

What British aircraft aren’t they giving you though?

I agree more commonwealth vics would be good in the british tree, even if Gaijin keeps not giving them to Britian. But I was specifically refering to the Swiss Hunter

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Key word there being Swiss, unless Britain has some connection to Switzerland i don’t know about it belongs in the German, French, or Italian tree.

I was hoping you were referring to the Australian M1A1 which as a commonwealth vehicle belongs in the British tree.

It only makes sense for vehicles to go to the nation that used them, or if they aren’t in the game, the nation with the best connection to them.

It’s not uncommon for the best variant of a vehicle to be in another nation’s tree, currently the best F-104 is Italian, the best F-4 is Japanese, the best A-4 is Israeli, Britain moved on from the Hunter before it saw it’s peak, that’s just how it goes.

I’d guess the Hunter F.58 is the case for preparing potential Switzerland sub-tree for Germany, or planning to give a Swiss F/A-18C to Germany in any way.

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It’s a good point, Britain, Germany, and Italy are likely going to struggle for new top tier vehicles until the Eurofighter arrives, subtrees would be a good way to remedy this.

Britain could get the commonwealth realms.
Germany could get some combination of Switzerland, Poland, Belgium, Austria and Netherlands
Italy could get any combination of Spain, Turkey, Portugal, and Greece.

There are a lot of options for subtrees if only for geographical reasons, Sweden and Finland don’t share many aircraft and culturally are quite different but because they’re neighbours the combination makes sense.

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It’s a good point, Britain, Germany, and Italy are likely going to struggle for new top tier vehicles until the Eurofighter arrives, subtrees would be a good way to remedy this.

We could just get the German trial Hornet.

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If it comes to that then yeah I think it’s a good idea not quite as ahistorical as the F-16AJ so definitely possible, but a sub tree would probably be better.

In terms of Legacy Hornet, these would be legit choices for each country:

  • United States: F/A-18C, F/A-18D(RC) (country of origin)
  • Germany: Swiss F/A-18C/D (Swiss Hunter F.58 as an event vehicle)
  • Britain: Canadian CF-18A/B or Australian F/A-18A/B (Commonwealth + Five Eyes contributors)
  • Sweden: Finnish F-18C/D (Finnish sub-tree)
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Looks about alright
Was planning to say that Swiss F/A-18C would make sense for Germany

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the F/A-18A to come first for the US, there’s no need to jump straight to the C variant is there?

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I’m not at all against jumping straight to the C variant. They essentially did this for Russia with the Yak-38, and kinda sorta for MiG-23 and MiG-29… lol