Compared to other F-86s except CL-13B, the F-86K is inferior only to a limited AoA.
If you want I can take a screenshot using WTRTI after the working day is over.
Almost all Sabres (and other 9.0BR jets) suffer when they get an uptier. It is literally not just an F-86K issue. Also, you somehow miss the point that it’s guns, while inferior to the F-2 Sabre, are superior to the other Sabres.
BTW, If you don’t consider being just a “tiny bit” faster to be better, why not post a rant on the forum about moving the CL-13A Mk.5 to the 8.7BR as well because it is basically “tiny bit” faster F-25 Sabre?
It would be a very cracked plane, if not as cracking as it was in 2018 🤡
My WTRTI says F-86K can outclimb CL-13A Mk.5.
Rolllate is slower but, it is fair because F-86K has same wing with F-40 Sabre that is longer than regular Sabres.
If you disable the instructor and measure AoA with the sim control, you can pull higher AoA on both Sabres, but most ARB players don’t use the sim control. And it’s simply too much trouble to look it up lol.
While it is true that it is hard to retain an advantage in a dogfight, it is simply wrong that it cannot gain an advantage in a hit-and-run. F-86K has same top speed with CL-13A on the deck but has better climb.
It is simply pointless to compare aircraft with different BRs, as most 9.3BRs are waaaaaay better than most 9.0BR aircrafts in some way. However, when compared to aircraft of the same BR (especially F-2 Sabre, MiG-17, CL-13A, Hunter F.1, F-40 Sabre), it has enough performance to compete with them on equal terms.
Your example is bad simply because most 9.3BR aircraft, with the exception of the Ariete and the G.91Y because,they can quickly escape out of range of your gun if you are on 9.0BR aircraft and get hit and run.
And if you can’t aim against aircraft sitting in the same BR or in a lower BR than the F-86K, it is a skill issue.
You aren’t doing as good of a job convincing me as you think. None of these examples are very good or telling. The F-86K isn’t half as competitive as most 9.0 aircraft in air RB
How? Most of your arguments are simply poorly worded or made up, like when you gave the example like that.
I don’t think being short on words is a bad thing, but it can be a major hindrance in conducting a discussion.
At least I am showing actual data from the WTRTI to explain F-86K has no significant performance differences from other 9.0BRs, with CL-13A as an example.However, You just say “X is not competitive and should move down to lower BR” without speaking to any evidence.
I’m not going to lie and say I’m making an argument, I’m just telling you how it is since that’s about what I see you doing… I don’t mean offense but I simply do not think your points are very accurate to the truth regarding most things because you hard focus on specific attributes I believe.
Kinda my point, you’re showing specific stats that don’t really help the F-86K at all.
It is very simple, but if you focus hit-and-run, the top speed and the climb rate would be useful quite often.
If you were playing F-86K and maintained speed, there is nothing regular Sabre can do against F-86K because you can run around the map and repeatedly hit and run against other enemies without worrying about them.
Even if there is a MiG-17 at your 6, if you are flying near top speed you can get away from it by simply climbing at a few degrees like Hawker Hunter.
Also, it is still Sabre that has decent energy retention roll rate so, If you bring 20 mins fuel and the remaining fuel is low you can still try to reverse against MiGs.
I have stats you can view. I did well in it. It doesn’t make it a good or competitive aircraft. The traits you talk about (climb rate, speed) are exaggerated regarding speed (greatly), and regarding climb rate are fully diminished by what it faces.
There is also nothing a F-86K can do to kill a F-86F who knows how to defensive fly. The F-86F however can definitely force an overshoot and a kill if the F-86K gets sloppy.
Just 2K/D on your F-86K in current meta?
It is understandable if you play that thing when it was 9.3BR and faced against tons of F-5 spammers just like me but, unfortunately, having only that in the current meta is not doing well.
That is actually not exaggerated at all, and even the CL-13A Mk.5 is even untouchable just a few dozen km/h faster than the regular Sabre when I’m on other 9.0/8.7 jets and faced against as enemy. And again, the F-86K has about the same or in some cases better top speed to the CL-13A.
It is just ridiculous that despite all these advantages, you are not only ignoring them, but making them up as " exaggerations".
It is your fault that you have a decent gun, an M24, and you can’t aim it against the F-86F, which is flying defensively. And the F-86K has an air brake.
BTW, unfortunately most players today doesn’t understand how to fly the F-86F because average players like spam AIM-9Bs and doesn’t know how to kill players without using missiles.
We no longer live in a time when there were tons of excellent players as there were in 2017 :/
Massive skill issue confirmed.
Honestly, getting 2K/D out of ARB is very easy, except for very slow bricks and bombers like Hs 129, and can actually be accomplished just by you actually using your brain cells.
