Preemptive +1 from me!
-1 from me. I can understand wanting the funni MiG-28 ingame, but that isn’t enough to justify it’s inclusion ingame. Russia is choked full of aircraft as it is, and there is still more to add, they don’t need copypasta.
I understand that, my idea on it’s inclusion is when and if the Iranian sub tree leak does come true, it can be a skin for one of their F-5Es, would be more interesting that way anyway since it uses Iranian and Russian missiles and wouldn’t be a copy and paste.
+1! I see this as an event vehicle or something.
First of all, I want to say you are more understanding than most who suggest copy paste vehicles, so I thank you for that.
Secondly, while I don’t think Russia should get an F-5E, if they get it through an Iranian subtree -and a proper subtree, not the sorry excuse that is the India ‘subtree’-, I think I would be fine with that.
I try to be understanding, some think I’m on here to rage bait but I really do have a fasciation for other countries using and testing another nations gear, mainly the U.S. and USSR and its many ex-republics.
Like for example, I’d love to see a MiG-29 or Su-27 of sorts in the U.S. tree in a way, one interesting one is the MiG-29 you’d see flying around some of the SpaceX sites, pretty aircraft.
Oh yeah, I absolutely get that. There is a charm in the surreal prospect of using the kit of the ‘enemy’ against them (or even just in general), be it using a MiG in the American tech tree or using an F-16 in the Russian tech tree, as well as reading about what pilots and ground crews think of the ‘enemy’ aircraft when it isn’t actively shooting them and they are at the controls. Can make for some good reading if you find a good account.
Also, didn’t know about the Space-X MiG. Would make for a beautiful camo at the very least.
I get this, but I think instead of largely pointless copy paste, they can add these as skins for the original aircraft, like the SpaceX skin for the USSR MiG-29.
This way people who like the history can still appreciate it in-game without having to add copy paste that largely dilutes and negatively affects a tree
Alrighty, so my brain keeps coming back to this suggestion, and it’s given me some interesting ideas for it:
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Event skin for the existing US F-5E
As it stands, the US F-5E has the exact same visual model as the one the Soviets were given by North Vietnam (that being the very basic, early production F-5E from 1972). It could be added with basically no complaints, since it’d technically satisfy both sides (no F-5E in Soviet TT, and Soviet F-5E). -
Outright event vehicle/premium vehicle
It would basically just be a copy-paste US F-5E in the Soviet/Russian TT. Highest chance of backlash from American mains -
This could be added as a semi-historical skin for an Iranian-modified F-5E
Probably one of the more… odd ideas, but seeing as Iran supposedly tested integrating R-60s onto one or two of their F-5Es, this could be something that wouldn’t be purely copy-paste. It’d be a bit more unique, but at the cost of pure historical-ness (which let’s be real, that got thrown out the window ages ago…)
All in all, there is some very interesting potential for this, but there’s also a high chance of a lot of people not being happy at the same time (cough cough American mains cough cough). I do understand the plight of people not super happy with what is essentially a copy-paste F-5E with the exact same weapons and performance. This is a very tricky situation, and because of that, I will retract my prior “-1” statement, but also won’t put a +1 yet. This will instead be Schrodinger’s F-5E suggestion…
at least if the US got a mig21, it would make sense since we actually were using it for aggressor training and it was fully functional (defector used it to get to the west)
PL-7s as well too! I’m sure they’re different reavers that integrated them, but seeing as gaijin wanted to add all the F-14A and F-14AM features as one aircraft, they could do the same here.
And that hasn’t stopped Gaijin in the past and even now when they try to limit copy paste vehicles.
Sure we can have almost every nation have a M44 Artillary Tank, but Herman the German Sherman got the boot and only put into the game for limited events. When its proven fact the Germans operated captured Shermans.
I would rather they just kept the captured or foreign operated equipment instead of removing them.
Yea, Gaijin does it, but that doesn’t mean I support copy pasting stuff from TT to TT, unless absolutely needed.
Well TBH I could have done without having to Grind 5 M44s on seperate trees, but then I would have rather had Shermans to grind instead of them.
Another part to this is there are a number of Romainian and Finnish Vehicles that are premium on the German Tech Tree and I would rather if these were moved to the appropiate trees.
Espcically the Finnish Aircraft, I know Gaijin said they wouldn’t do it, but then we now have two Canadian Ram IIs for Britian and America, so I don’t see it hurting for them to do the same with those vehicles retrospecitivally.
Maybe if an American Mig-21 got unique weaponry
probable aim 9b or something idk
I researched this, it was never fit with AIM-9B. Only used as performance evaluation, similar to the Soviet F-5E.
aim9b is something at least, plus they could realistically mount it since the mig 21 used an aim9b ripoff
You’d also have to have proof it used the AIM-9B
These captured stuff should be kept as skins at higher tier, since they won’t even be premiums that can help with the grind and I don’t see the good of having an absolutely identical vehicle as a separate event reward.