still no,… you compare aircrafts which design purposes are different from F-5E (which is still a lightweight fighter base of CAS variants US F-5A/F-5C)
Wait a sec what did you say about the F8U? This thing absolutely dominates most jet fighters. Unless you’re talking about the F-16, JAS 39, or J-10, nothing else really stands a chance!
the F-5E eats F-8U for breakfast
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What you have failed to mention
- F-5s have an insane damage model that can shrug off lethal damage like its nothing
- F-5s have the coldest engines in game that are almost impossible to lock onto with some IR missile. 1 tap flare defeat of most IRCCM missiles, let alone anything else
- EEGS with some of the best canons in game
- Very capable dogfighter that easily beats most other aircraft at its BR
As it stands, the F-5C & E might be undertiered at their respective BRs. I hate fighting them in things like the Sea Harrier.
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“every” if handeld well ^^"
but you know, he only just got is F-5E so he’s not seasonned yet:
So not even spaded yet?
I would never even begin to form an opinion on an aircraft until i’ve gotten at least 90% of the mods unlocked
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this is a holy load of copium
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Some pointers when flying the F-5E (or any F-5 really):
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Stay above 0.85 Mach - your engines produce their optimal thrust above these speeds and allows you to out energy any other plane (especially delta wings) in a wide upwards spiral.
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Climb to just below the cons, flying in a slight notch to be prepared to defend against Fox 1 launches against you. Dive down on the furball once it has developed, singling out low energy planes who are currently focused on your teammates. These are the people who are your main targets for missiles.
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I personally fly out with 30m of fuel, as you’ll be in full burner for majority of your flight. This gives you enough fuel to chase down stragglers towards the end of the match. You shouldn’t be dogfighting below 0.85 mach when above 20 minutes of fuel.
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This contradicts the second dot point but try and make highly dangerous planes your priority (J-7Es, other F-5s etc) as on the second sortie, these planes become the bane of your existence. Ignore the attackers and eliminate your main threats first.
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Turn off your radar, you won’t be needing it. The radar gunsight is barely functional and it’s just better if you learn the ballistics yourself. Otherwise it just gives you away when you are otherwise unspotted.
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Be patient and have fun!
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i see what you mean by f5e beat f8u which actually can if the f5e more competed it’s not as if the f5e/c are bad it just that f8u is busted only in Cheak because of it slower speeds
While the F-8U beats the F-5C/E 7 out of 10 times, it’s not just numbers. The F-8U turn a12/11G turns at 800 km/h while the F-5E only manages 10/11G at the same speed. The F-8U also has a higher angle of attack, so it’s way better at positioning and staying on target.
F-5E guns lose velocity after about 1 km, which makes them less effective the F-8U’s guns may have a shorter range, but they retain most of its speed and stay more accurate up close mid-range
the F-8U, with 20 minutes of fuel and 2 AIM-9Cs, maxes out at 1220 km/h. The F-5E, with 2 AIM-9Ps, hits 1270 km/h, but that’s where the close performance ends
At lower speeds, the F-5E turns into a light bus, while the F-8U stays like a 4x4 truck.
While I love the F-5E, it’s a close call. If two skilled pilots were going at it, I’d say it’s 60% for the F-8U, 40% for the F-5E.
aye man come on its not like I’m a robot that can say every detail Bruh leave me alone
yeah, that is the catch with f5s in general stay above 800km and you are menace to your BR :)
F-8U have no 9C’s,…
Only F-8E does
Learn your F-8’s ^^"
@rico are u bumping topics and deleting ur response??
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It really doesn’t. The F-5’s are incredible dogfighters.
and yet everything has a way to counter the f-5e or the f-5c.
Su-25: superior in rolling scissors especially vertically
MiG21s: superior in one circle and slow speed stall fighting, can get the f-5 if it starts on it’s six
f-4e: superior in the vertical
j7e: no need to talk about it.
J35s: out rate it at high speed, have half the turn radius below 700kmh ias
kfir canard: outrate it at transonic speeds, superior in the vertical, superior in the scissors
(formerly) MiG19: 29 degrees of turn rate and tighter turn radius demolish it, horizontally, vertically and one circle. Fails at scissors cause sluggish rudder.
F-5 in 2025 q3 has the worst 20mm guns in the entire game with ease, i haven’t gotten a single “aircraft destroyed” on the first burst since the 20th of june.
Two 15g missiles at a br where everyone has four 35g missiles.
I talk from the point of view of someone with over 1100 kills on f-5c in 800 games and almost 4kd on the f-5e even despite being at it’s br being tiered up always because it’s barely played, thus getting sucked into the higher ups; and talking from the point of someone who never died to an f-5 in a dogfight when using all the planes I listed except the kfir canard and the j35, which I don’t own but dueled against.
The F-5E is nothing but a rat fighter that is only good at the worst combat style ever conceived for the absolute shidfest that is 16v16: rate fighting. This coupled with just 40 flare pops, two 15g missiles and the very thing that made the f-5e viable now being the absolute worst 20mm of any jet in game currently, made the plane nothing but a slight annoyance.