Another one bites the dust because he can’t defend his points against simple logic, I think that’s 7 F-5C players who’ve blocked me after attacking me lmao.
Who wants to debate we with reasonable points? I don’t block because I’m wrong, I’ll admit defeat.
What happened to blocking me?
You don’t seem to understand and keep trying to run around to different points. I talk about the MiG-23 and you get start talking about how the F-5C is fair against flareless planes. If your logic was that of a normal person you would stay on topic.
Rare Alvis W lmao /s
All the planes you listed are a non-issue for the F-5C.
All the Mig-23s including the ML had their flight models and radars substantially nerfed to the point where the F-5 can beat it in a close engagement with ease.
AIM-9Ls are a joke for the F-5C because it has the coldest afterburning engine in the game and more than enough countermeasures (especially after separating flares from chaff) to decoy every single IR missile on the enemy team. I can not recall one time when I couldn’t one flare any missile while playing the F-5C.
And the Su-25s shouldn’t even be brought up. If you’re getting killed by those then that’s a severe skill issue. Sure, one might catch you off guard because you didn’t spot it or 3rd party you because you were distracted but such instances should be rare. Su25/39 isn’t even in the same category as the Tiger, R-73s or not.
Even at 12.0 a lot of the stuff you face can only avoid losing to you in a dogfight by running away. Yes, you are forced to play defensively because of radar missiles. But that’s how full uptiers feel for most other jets as well, so welcome to the club. The F-5C doesn’t even have it that bad in such cases.
It’s perfectly fine at 11.0. The only issue is separating it from the F-5E.
But what about the [insert obviously undertiered 11.0 that’s better than the F-5]? Why does it get to be the same BR?
Move those up, keep the F-5 the same.
this is true becuase the f5c doesn’t have any kind of radar or good missile but it gets put at the same br as the f5e which has a radar and a better missile and the f5c now has the consent problem with most planes at the br having radar missiles which is kinda annoying to deal with because rwr don’t tell me anything, it being at 10.7 was good and a downteir was rare and to say that it is better in a downteir is right but most vehicles are always better in a downteir.
The radar on the F5E is completely irrelevant. You should have it turned off 99% of the time. It’s too short ranged and lack any useful mode, but having it on will trigger enemy RWR. You should keep it off to stay hidden and maximise your chance of hitting your missiles or bearing your guns on target.
I agree that both F5C and F5E shouldn’t be at the same BR. F5E should be 11.3. FCU may need to go 11.7 too but that’s more arguable.
The F5C after the BR changes sees the Exact. Same. Planes. As before. Since the Mig23 nerf it’s more than competitive in 11.0 as the only plane that can seriously threaten it in a dogfight are other F5 and J7E.
It’s a very simple to use gunfighter. It has amazing energy retention too. Use it to its strenghts.
Mig23 nerfs are irrelevant, it still beats the crap out of f5c. If you cant kill a f5 in mig23 then you trash bro
And now f5 sees mig23 more often and without limits.
You’re not fighting a 1v1. F5C is a vulture. It always has been. Take opportunities on planes that are too busy to fight you. Because you are slow with a good energy retention, you can easily swoop on any plane that already spent its energy and gun it down.
You can rate fight any plane that is taking it. Mig23 could fare decently before, but the FM nerf really did a number on its ability to dogfight. It’s a missile bus now with a radar that’s barely functional.
If you get above the Mig, his MTI mode doesn’t work. Meaning some chaff and a small change in direction will completely misdirect his R24R, and if he doesn’t immediately run away, you can just bully him in dogfight.
It’s really not a hard plane to use, and 11.0 is the right BR for it. It shouldn’t meet anything lower than 10.0.
got a point
You are delusional
Your words about the effectiveness of the F-5C sound too theoretical and don’t quite match the in-game reality. Or maybe it’s just me, a complete newbie.
I suggest you prove your point in practice. Play 20 matches on the F-5C, and we’ll compare your stats on it before and after. Also, you’ll share your impressions of the plane here.
That would be fair and interesting. I’m including your current stats on this plane.
