struggling? no
but they are annoying to play against sometimes when a r73 comes against you in every match and aim9l from something that is actually fast and not a flying brick like a10
9.7 didnt have it that bad against f5c
if f5c was moved to 10.7 then 9.7 would see it only in a full uptier meaning there wouldnt be that many f5c’s in a match to make their life miserable
R-73 I can understand if you get it in rear/ back half or don’t see it, but that’s more of a positioning issue than anything else.
Aim-9L has some downright horrendous flare resistance, one MAYBE 2 flare taps and it will go to the next country over
The missile platforms are horrible too, keep in mind you have one of the best dogfighters in war thunder rn.
Yep sure, when the F-4J UK goes back down to 11.3, when the Gripen goes back down to 12.7 because hey that’s what BR they were when I brought them right? You must cater to my demands because I am a paying player. /s
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no one is asking for f5c to go back where it was
it should go up just not 2 steps up to be the same br as F5E which is superior in every possible way and to get worse mm (not to mention F5A which is even worse than F5C and also got moved up to 11.0 lmao)
f5c should be 10.7 which would give it the perfect balance between uptiers and downtiers
also f4c got moved up to 10.7 from 10.0
2 steps up for a plane that was already struggling when it was 10.0 like bruh how do you justify this
Really not hard to understand.
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another one that doesnt understand f5c went up too much and not like the others in decompression, mm isnt the same
Yeah you’re totally right, it sucks not being able to completely club flareless subsonics without missiles! The uptiers are literally the same but I wanna club 9.Xs! I can’t believe I sometimes have to actually compete against planes that are somewhat equal! /s
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They arent. F5C gets clapped by mig23 every round
Most planes at 9.7 have flares, and those who dont, like mig21s are immune to f5c besides it would be a full uptier for them so max what, 3 f5c per match?
If you cant see the issue with f5c going to 11.0 with f5e and not to 10.7 you have a brainrot lol
Dude, lil history lesson here. The F-5 was one of the last jets designed explicitly for Gunfighting. Missiles on it were an afterthought. There’s no reason you can’t fight MiG-23s, if they fire a radar missile, multipath or notch it with chaff. If they fire an IR missile then flare it. Force a dogfight and kill them that way.
Decompress to 14.0 and move F-5E to 11.3
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You cant force a dogfight with a mig23
R24 can be fired from so far you wont even know its coming and the radar version is tricky because it has iog and mti still exists even if its harder to use
If f5c can fight mig23 like that then no reason 9.7 cant fight f5c, it doesnt need flares to do so.
Typical clueless console player
MFW when situational awareness doesn’t exist anymore apparently
IOG can’t re-lock if you don’t fly straight
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Bro can’t defend his points so he has to use ad hominem attacks about what I play on lmao
I want you to try to fight the F-5C in a Hunter F.6, if you beat it than it can go to 10.7.
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If I was in a mig23 and you in f5c I would have you dead whenever I want to
By your logic 9.x can just notch multipath radar and dodge ir no problem
I already did kill f5c many times in my hunter before it went up
In the F-5C you have CHAFF and FLARES. You need those to dodge, do you not understand that? You’re asking to club and I’m telling you why that’s not fair.
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Proof???
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No, you dont
Aim9e is so useless even a b29 can dodge it
Time to block you, you are clueless and useless in the game
Here ya go buddy. Use your plane the way it’s supposed to be used.
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