F-5C's Performance at 11.0 Needs Reassessment

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Really not hard to understand.

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another one that doesnt understand f5c went up too much and not like the others in decompression, mm isnt the same

Yeah you’re totally right, it sucks not being able to completely club flareless subsonics without missiles! The uptiers are literally the same but I wanna club 9.Xs! I can’t believe I sometimes have to actually compete against planes that are somewhat equal! /s

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They arent. F5C gets clapped by mig23 every round
Most planes at 9.7 have flares, and those who dont, like mig21s are immune to f5c besides it would be a full uptier for them so max what, 3 f5c per match?
If you cant see the issue with f5c going to 11.0 with f5e and not to 10.7 you have a brainrot lol

Dude, lil history lesson here. The F-5 was one of the last jets designed explicitly for Gunfighting. Missiles on it were an afterthought. There’s no reason you can’t fight MiG-23s, if they fire a radar missile, multipath or notch it with chaff. If they fire an IR missile then flare it. Force a dogfight and kill them that way.

Decompress to 14.0 and move F-5E to 11.3

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You cant force a dogfight with a mig23
R24 can be fired from so far you wont even know its coming and the radar version is tricky because it has iog and mti still exists even if its harder to use

If f5c can fight mig23 like that then no reason 9.7 cant fight f5c, it doesnt need flares to do so.
Typical clueless console player

MFW when situational awareness doesn’t exist anymore apparently

IOG can’t re-lock if you don’t fly straight

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Bro can’t defend his points so he has to use ad hominem attacks about what I play on lmao

I want you to try to fight the F-5C in a Hunter F.6, if you beat it than it can go to 10.7.

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If I was in a mig23 and you in f5c I would have you dead whenever I want to
By your logic 9.x can just notch multipath radar and dodge ir no problem

I already did kill f5c many times in my hunter before it went up

In the F-5C you have CHAFF and FLARES. You need those to dodge, do you not understand that? You’re asking to club and I’m telling you why that’s not fair.

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Proof???

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No, you dont
Aim9e is so useless even a b29 can dodge it
Time to block you, you are clueless and useless in the game

Here ya go buddy. Use your plane the way it’s supposed to be used.

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Another one bites the dust because he can’t defend his points against simple logic, I think that’s 7 F-5C players who’ve blocked me after attacking me lmao.

Who wants to debate we with reasonable points? I don’t block because I’m wrong, I’ll admit defeat.

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What happened to blocking me?

You don’t seem to understand and keep trying to run around to different points. I talk about the MiG-23 and you get start talking about how the F-5C is fair against flareless planes. If your logic was that of a normal person you would stay on topic.

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When @WalletWarrior69 has to resort to posts containing gaslighting…

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Rare Alvis W lmao /s

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All the planes you listed are a non-issue for the F-5C.
All the Mig-23s including the ML had their flight models and radars substantially nerfed to the point where the F-5 can beat it in a close engagement with ease.
AIM-9Ls are a joke for the F-5C because it has the coldest afterburning engine in the game and more than enough countermeasures (especially after separating flares from chaff) to decoy every single IR missile on the enemy team. I can not recall one time when I couldn’t one flare any missile while playing the F-5C.
And the Su-25s shouldn’t even be brought up. If you’re getting killed by those then that’s a severe skill issue. Sure, one might catch you off guard because you didn’t spot it or 3rd party you because you were distracted but such instances should be rare. Su25/39 isn’t even in the same category as the Tiger, R-73s or not.

Even at 12.0 a lot of the stuff you face can only avoid losing to you in a dogfight by running away. Yes, you are forced to play defensively because of radar missiles. But that’s how full uptiers feel for most other jets as well, so welcome to the club. The F-5C doesn’t even have it that bad in such cases.

It’s perfectly fine at 11.0. The only issue is separating it from the F-5E.

But what about the [insert obviously undertiered 11.0 that’s better than the F-5]? Why does it get to be the same BR?

Move those up, keep the F-5 the same.

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