I’m sure you’re trying to say something, just not in a coherent way
And just un-do the decompression?
No, it was a total and complete menace to deal with in most sub-sonic 9.7s and its wonderful to be able to play those aircraft without facing a wall of F-5Cs.
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You’re keeping the thread alive, what don’t you understand? If you hadn’t made a show of being some kind of hall monitor the thread would’ve died of its own lack of engagement.
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That’s not how public forums work, if something hasn’t been posted in 3 minutes the thread is not dead. It’s a controversial topic (which has already been discussed multiple times) so it will remain active. Tell me why you need 9 different threads for one thing?
Ok good, tell it to your shrink. I stand with the OP.
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Want a cookie?
Why not just like a post and move on rather than butting into a conversation that didn’t involve you.
It’s absolutely ludicrous to have the F-5C in the same BR as the F-5E and J-7E. The F-5C lacks any decent missiles, has an inferior engine, and yet it’s expected to face these two same-tier aircraft at 11.0. I have no idea what Gaijin were thinking when they made this BR adjustment.
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It’s absolutely ludicrous to have the F-5C any lower than 11.0. The F-5C’s opponents lacked any decent missiles, had inferior engines, and yet they were expected to face this aircraft at such a low BR. I have no idea what Gaijin were thinking before they made this BR adjustment.
Fixed it for you.
It is faster than a fair few 10s and fights well when used right. It has good guns and whilst it may not have the best missiles. They are certainly usable. You have such a cold airframe that its possible 1 tap flare any IRCCM missile let alone anything from the BR you may find. Thats assuming the IR missiles can even lock on to begin with and to top that off. You have an airframe that has an uncanny ability to tank damage.
I have seen an F-5E win a dogfight against a Mirage 2K with ease. The F-5C probably wouldnt do badly either if flown right. Here is the clip of it:
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11.0 is the first time in a very long time that the F-5C has been at an appropriate BR and if the F-5E needs to move up then it needs to move up, but I think both are fine at 11.0.
But 10.7 is way too low and it should not go back down to its pre-decompress BR. If it does. Then the Sea Harrier FRS1 should go back down from 11.3 and return to its pre-decompressed BR of 10.7
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If all it takes for the f5c to go down is a harrier to go down with it then thats perfectly fine imo even if said harrier has aim 9ls i mean the a10 also has aim 9ls 4 of em too and is 10.7 if u want a another point of view the new a10c has 4 aim 9ms and is 11.3 only a little bit more than the f5c how do u think 10.3s get to feel about that
A-10C should likely be 11.7 and could just about scrape 12.0 within ARB.
The A-10Cs BR is no justfication for the F-5C which is a total menace to fight, even in higher BR aircraft from being under-BRed.
Either that, or it can loose its CMs and go down in BR
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So then why bother having upgraded aircraft if said upgrades dont come with a cost that a10 is a higher br because it has aim 9ms the f5c has worse missles and flight performance than the e yet they are the same br explain it
If the difference between the 2 airframes is so significant then the F-5E should go up in BR. But its possible for 2 similar aircraft to share a BR. BR are not decided by aircraft vs aircraft comparisons and the F-5C is a premium and the F-5E is on the TT.
Under no circumstances should the F-5C return to 10.7. I know the average US pilot isnt that good. But that is no justification for a Flareless Sub-sonic aircraft to be facing a hoard of OP super-sonic fighters that need their engine temps doubling.
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Then in your opinion should the mig 21 smt go up then since that is 10.7 with 4 missles and good flight performance since i dont see how that gets to be 10.7 and the f5c 11.0
Yep, it probably should.
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The F-5C’s engine is miles behind the F-5E’s, missing nearly 1000 horsepower. And let’s not forget it’s stuck with the AIM-9E, an old-school IR missile that other US jets at 9.3 are using it. It’s basically just an AIM-9B with a bit more wiggle room. The overload, acceleration, and range are pretty much identical.
You’re saying the F-5E can take on a Mirage 2000? That’s a bit of a stretch. Most of the time, the F-5E gets its backside handed to it when it’s thrown into a 12.0 match. Plus, the US and Chinese F-5Es are at 11.0, so they’d never see a 12.3 Mirage 2000. The F-5E you’re thinking of must be a Thai one, with those fancy Python 3 missiles. Israeli jets with those are all 12.0 or higher.
Instead of arguing about whether the F-5C and F-5E belong at 11.0, let’s talk about the whole air combat BR changelog. Between 11.0 and 13.0, it’s a mess. Stuff like the F-5C and F-5E/J-7E being at the same BR is just one example. Going back to the old one would be dumb, but the current one is no good either. I hope Gaijin sorts it out by the end of the year.
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All US jets at 9.3 have either the AIM-9B, AIM-9E or AIM-7C.
He got a single headon kill . . .
Cry about it. Or not, you’ve drained your balls and eyes severe enough.