F-5C runs circles around it.
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yeah, but it can beat the mirages
Then those Mirage 3 pilots did many incorrect things to get beaten by a Jaguar.
i mean sure but you could say bout any plane
Gaijin doesn’t choose historical accuracy. Real life nations do.
Gaijin has never picked & chose what to buff, which means your wish is fulfilled.
And no, F-5C is not top 5 at 10.3.
Mirage 3C/E, Mig-21MF & SMT, and AJ-37 are the top 5 10.3s in game.
Except they do, they really do. Just look at the F-5C or the F-104G. Clearly, they choose to give the F5C flares when it never actually mounted them because reasons and they chose not to give the F-104G flares because reasons.
The F-5C absolutely wins dog fights vs the mig-21s and the mirages(one of those doesn’t even have flares at 10.3!)
Couldn’t tell you if you can win vs a AJ-37 because I haven’t tried it.
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F-5 had the countermeasures developed & made compatible. Manufacturer > your biases.
Not every F-104G got countermeasures.
F-5 was made compatible from the start. F-104s had to be retrofitted for flares.
F-104S using the same flare system originally developed for F-5s.
Good F-5C pilots win against bad Mig-21 & Mirage pilots, that doesn’t mean superior aircraft to the F-5C are suddenly inferior.
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“F-5 had the countermeasures developed & made compatible. Manufacturer > your biases.
Not every F-104G got countermeasures.
F-5 was made compatible from the start. F-104s had to be retrofitted for flares.
F-104S using the same flare system originally developed for F-5s.
Good F-5C pilots win against bad Mig-21 & Mirage pilots, that doesn’t mean superior aircraft to the F-5C are suddenly inferior.”
The only bias here is from you. The F-5C, never used flares. That’s it.
The F-104G could use flares, but it doesn’t have them in game. You’re claiming the F-5C is bad, I’m claiming it’s not, and is in fact pretty good.
I get it, you love US planes but this is getting kinda crazy man.
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The fact you claim all aircraft are American is hilarious.
Me: “I love all aircraft.”
You: “I get it, you love US planes.”
So what changed about my statement? You love all planes? That’s great.
The F-5C didn’t use flares, simple as that. Other vehicles in game get the same non historical treatment.
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The equipment exists, F-5A is compatible, it got it.
Don’t like it? Tough.
Same treatment as all other aircraft.
It’s not the same treatment, like the equipment exists for other aircraft and they don’t get it.
How are you not getting this?
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Congratulations, you have discovered an interceptor can’t turn fight a fighter.
Are we talking F-5C or F-5E ?
The F-5C can’t go faster than match 1.01 on the Deck, if you can’t outrun it it’s because you were very slow.
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yet f-5a is basically the same yet sits at 10.7? the only thing it has over the f5c is aim9ps but performace wise the only the aim9p has over the aim9e is guidance time and g-limit
then why is the chinese f-5a 10.7? if all these better missiles are at a lower BR why does it sit at the same br as the f-5e which out preforms it in every way? the only thing it has over the f5c are aim9ps but performace are similar
Aim-9Js are literally the reason.
even so, there are missiles BETTER then it at lower brs, aim9ls, r60/m/mk, aim9gs. the flight performance are the same and can barely go mach 1 yet it can fight 11.7s?
There are no mach 2 supersonics with 9Ls, 9Gs, & R-60Ms lower than 10.7.
F5a is barely subsonic, how about the yak38? It carries 4 r60s at 9.7, it lacks the maneuver ability yet sits 1 whole BR lower and even without being subsonic you don’t need to be to be deadly as su25 is still decent at dog fighting and a6e Carrys 4 aim9ls at 10.0
Yak-38 is chronically subsonic and worse than an F-104 in turning.
Without R-60s 8.3 Sabres are as good as it.
A-6E is subsonic and large.
Still the aim9es are similar to the aim9ps. As stated only difference being guidance time and g-limit