I’m baffled.
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The F-5C also never had a flare dispenser in US service. Its exactly the same situation. But one plane gets special treatment, the other one not.
Its similar with F-4F early. 10.3 with no countermeasures. Its almost unplayable vs. these low BRed all aspect AAMs.
Thats simply not fair.
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War Thunder is a mixture of historical accuracy and gameplay balance, Flares are an important aspect of high tier jet gameplay as they allow you to nullify IR missiles, taking these away from the F-5c would require it’s BR be lowered substantially to adjust for the massive decrease in effectiveness.
This would cause problems as the F-5c’s flight performance would destroy anything at a BR lower than 9.7, which would be required as the vehicle would be missing it’s flares.
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Su-17M4 is missing additional 128 cartridges of countermeasures
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Isn’t F-5E the same story? Fictional flares and mavericks.
The F-5E / N had countermeasures in the aggressor role, and it was tested with Mavericks by the USAF.
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There are a variety of issues with the F-5E, which can best summed up as;
That as it stands it doesn’t represent any configuration that was investigated by Northrop, but as an amalgamation of best possible characteristics.
- It has the 3D model of an early F-5E-1 (Lacks complete IHQ set of features)
- The Flight Model of an F-5E-3 (the F-3 added automatic slats)
- The cockpit fitout of a mid life F-5F(Maverick interoperability)
- Countermeasures from the F-5N
- and the ordnance of practically everything that was ever bolted on to one.
The thing is that they couldn’t just pick a variant and stick with it, as it would require significant revision to most aspects regardless of which they actually chose to model, and probably cause a drop in BR.
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It seems USAF F-5Es were at least tested with mavericks:
Thats…you can’t be serious.
You think its flight performance would bring it all the way down to 9.7 without flares? The same BR as the G.91YS.
The thing is being flown by new players and still has a win rate of over 60 percent.
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The attached files arent viewable to everyone, just staff and the user who submitted the report. Just because you couldn’t see the evidence doesn’t mean it wasn’t on the report.
The Su-17M4 has the correct amount of 256 countermeasures. 8x 32.
@CodyBlues F-5C doesn’t have a win rate of 60% unless you’re a secret Gaijin employee.
G91YS shares the engines of the F-5C tho.
At least they should fix F-5C’s thermal signature. It’s almost impossible to lock them from long distance.
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Go check thunderskill.
The fact that you guys think the F-5C should go to the same BR as the G.91YS is insane to me.
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That doesn’t make any sense. Your gonna get a lot of cases of reports going though with people not being able to view evidence.
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Its to allow users to submit stuff that is their own personal copies of books and documents they may have paid lots of money for or don’t want to share with everyone.
It’s up to the user submitting if they want to share it.
Thunderskill is less than 5% of the playerbase. It does not accurately represent anything.
You are the only one here that suggested G91YS & F-5E should be the same BR BTW, no one else did.
What? There is a post in this thread saying the F-5C should go down in BR to 9.7? Are you not reading anything in here.
Until we have another way to measure stats, thunderskill is our only way. But hey, just go play at 10.3 and tell me how many matches you win as the US vs how many you lose to them.
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