F-5C Flares need to be removed. It is FICTIONAL

They just give off next to no heat signature in my experience… Even rear aspect 9Ps struggle to lock sometimes.

It’s bloody ridiculous that people are willing to argue in defense of this jet when its DM has been broken since release, its flight model outperforms even the best upgrades to the airframe, and it gets countermeasures it historically never mounted. It should really be at 9.7 with no CMs, as a near-direct counterpart to the Mitsubishi T-2/Early.

They have less of a heat sig then a harrier with their afterburner on the f5c afterburner

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If you had to guesstimate, by what percentage would you say FM-wise the F-5C is overperforming?

I could calculate it all and find an average based on your bug report, but I really can’t be bothered.

The turn radius is ~600 something meters and it should be ~800+ during sustained turns as an example. I’ve taken a step back from reporting for a while because I’m not as active in the game.

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Fair enough, its good to take a step back, I find myself making vehicle suggestions more than I play the game as of late.

But yeah those are quite interesting. I also found the F-5C engine temp curves albeit from Iran and that got closed as not a bug like your report. Clearly the F-5’s have some sort of immunity at the moment. I find it funny, because they would be pretty balanced at their respective br’s if they had a realistic FM change.

Yes because this has not happened before for QQ Balance reasons and QQ IRL vs Game all the Tom Cruse here thinks Gaijin needs to balance F-5C not considering how bad is Air Realistic anyway with the chances they implement from Bigger Maps is with the layout bases and ground targets from small maps only peripheral bigger Map making it stupid chance already

Shattered Idiotic chance hitting ppl with 30 mm cannons from NATO Jets is like dice playing Rus - Chinese Bias hitting you with 30mm cannon makes your jet explode

These same Shattered 7.62 mm guns are better than 20 mm cannons in low BR amazing chance

Try to play G91s and other Subsonic VS try-hards on F-104s , Mig-19s,Q-5s ofc chance was implemented before new Premium Jets came out right Gaijin ofc

Take Vaultour go bomb with no bomb sight getting all aspects in face wonder how come this plane go 9.0 BR ahh yes 40$ but new jets come out Balance reasons ofc

Wonder why F5E got Radar Lock Gun sight and Drakens don’t

Decompression my … Air Realistic it’s a Joke some Jets have 60 years out of Service playing vs jets that are used today if you guys write about Realism here for F5C then consider other Jets that struggle to even fly to the battle field

Record Guinness for Vehicles and 95% of them are just unable to compete because of the MM ofc high-level battles 80% of the planes in battle are Premiums we need to cope with this because Gaijin special Rewards suck hard

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The F-5E got the EEGS because it stated that it used it in a flight manual, if I recall properly.

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til this day the f-5c still haves its innacurate flares and the t-2 and f-1 doesnt have their chaff pods

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man that special treatment has gotten soo bad that made the F-15 12.0 just for the win rates lmao

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Now they will get 11.7/11.3 F-20, f-5 super, as premium :))

Oh boy, the chaff pods on the A32A really make a difference.

Its about as historical as Akan 30mm on some planes getting tracers.

And more historical than the Kikka getting guns

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something is something, early aams gets fooled by chaffs so it COULD work

to be honest i dont know why that thing is even in the tech tree, its god damn awful

Another difference is you can’t add a fighter without guns, but you can definitely remove flares from f-5C

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*amazing

Honestly, only the F-1 can actually face targets where it could matter as far as i can tell. And while its neat, idk if its that high on the priority list to me anyways.

And the band is incredibly narrow between Radar missiles that you just turn to avoid, and PD guided Radar missiles. And that band is 11.0 (idk maybe some french jet has a useful missile but i dont see them much)

And at 11.0 you see the first PD radar missiles anyways.

So while id love for them to add it, id probably place many things as a higher priority.

No you can’t.

it really isnt, its just a worse me 262 with horrible turn rates who bleeds speeds in a single turn and also can be outspeeded by literally anything on that BR bracket.

no its better because the acceleration is better and the same with the manouverability you get. Its not magic like the Ki-200, but it is a rather nice plane

i dont know what kikka you were flying but in my experience i was quickly out speeded and out turned by me 262’s and barely could get rid of them by doing high G maneuvers (since people still doesnt know how to not lose control in these maneuvers)

i suppose stock that was the experience, but i also run with minimum fuel and 1 gun to maximise performance. Tho at least in case of the gun thats silly.

so when i ran stock i did everything to counteract the lack of upgrades.

Actually, the Ki-102 lacks a fair amount of things it got IRL. Even if we exclude the (missing) bombs, the interceptor version got turbochargers as its second stage.

Most of japan’s aircraft (and most WW2 fighters, for that matter) also lack drop tanks.

Allison P-40s lack the middle east deployment/australia mod where someone would remove the boost limit, allowing for up to 70" of boost.

J7W lacks a useable flight model.

Most Bf109s lack the radiator shutoff valves (available for the Es onward), which allowed the pilot to bypass a damaged radiator in-flight by flipping a valve, stopping the coolant leak.

A LOT of aircraft are missing fuel tank fire extinguishing systems, namely the N1K2-Js.

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