Nor does the T-2 Early, really. At 9.7.
Where the 5C should be, in the configuration it actually used.
Edit: Good lord, looking back with the T-2(e) as a reference point… Gaijin had a perfectly good place to put the historical Skoshi Tiger. Where it’d fight jets its rough equal, on a fair field.
Aaaand instead they bumped it up a notch or two and gave it CMs, because why should USA premium buyers be deprived of flares? Those suckers’ll buy anything if it has countermeasures, seekers, and good performance at a nice and favorable tier, after all.
American teams are filled with them cause its one of the best selling premiums and one of the easiest planes you can use at 10.3 thanks to bein jack of all trades and uncompetetive rivals, it has nothing to do with flares.
A-10 Late variant is considering its firepower and ground ordinance which simply trades with speed and agility, oh wait you’re also gonna complain about that because of its Aim-9L’s i guess.
Same goes for many vehicles, this not something special to them, on the other hand putting them at higher br will certainly cause bigger problems then its now.
Well good thing is that developers doesnt share the same cruel opinion you have, otherwise those vehicles should be either removed or sits at so much lower br that they will cause unexpected problems.
Br compression is the main problem, not some xyz premium vehicles.
So it’s a best-selling premium because it’s one of the easiest planes to use, a jack of all trades (most of which, it’s better than average at), and has “uncompetitive rivals” (i.e., planes that mostly stick to history if they’re not nerfed in terms of armaments to for balance)…
And really? Speed? Who on earth plays the A-10 for speed and? It’s a missile bus with 9Ls at 10.0, where, y’know, most other aircraft don’t get all-aspect, 30G AAMs PLUS more than enough agility (not much, all things considered) to turn into most threats it can spot in time to send an all-aspect missile their way.
How is it cruel to want accuracy? And what.
…Y’know, the difference between the F-5C and most vehicles is. It actually. Takes effort to get them, rather than mommy’s credit card? You generally have to learn the game a good bit more?
…And on that last point, you do realize two things can be bad at the same time, right? Certain premium vehicles (2S38, F-5C, SU-25k/A-10A, Des Moines) exacerbate the current compression issues by being placed incredibly favorably, near to the top enough that people will want to buy them and skip the grind but just far enough away they won’t get stomped by the actual top-tier players.
The biggest crime here is that this handheld piece of shit still hasn’t gotten it’s damage model fixed since it got added. Lightest mach 1 jet in game yet it tanks more than french mbts do
It’s in the american tree. That’s the only reason. Much like other planes on the same tree they are always lower br despite having the same or better performance than their opponents
If it was only on the chinaman tree it’s BR wouldn’t be lowered.
At 11.0 it can hold it’s own weight, what do you want it to be? The most meta jet? At 10.7 it outperforms everything except for top speed, which isn’t that big of a deal at that br due to no radar missiles.
Name them all now, I wanna see what bs you’ll come up with
Teach us all here then how to deal with handheld undertiered US planes then
@J_ackal
F-5E was the worst 11.0 in the game when it was 11.0. Then F-4F was the worst after F-5E was made 10.7.
11.0 healed & stopped being so compressed & there were barely any 10.7s until stuff moved.
Pure speculation; the BR was lowered due to Gaijin monitoring the stats performance of the plane. Not because people whinged and moaned on the forum. Before the BR decrease, it was another dead plane on the very long list at this point.
Without any kind of all aspect missiles, IR or SARH, it really can’t do much when you’re facing things like 29s,16s, 14s and what have you with the whole kit.
You’re right, it doesn’t have to be meta but it wasn’t competitive in an up tier and lets face it, that’s all 11.0 was back then.
Kfir Canard, J35XS, MiG-21SMT/MF… fast deltas that can chase down the F-5E and one circle it. All F-5s struggle in the vertical so inversely even an A5C could out dogfight a F5E if it’s able to draw it into a vertical fight… the F5E isn’t just an insta win like you make it out to be.
I would, if you wanted to learn.
I have a 5.5 K/d ratio with 150~ kills and 28 deaths. I know it’s a good plane at that BR but it’s not the absolute king.
Unironically anyone who did any of this of this, aka average new US main that got spoonfed since br 1.0. Why run away from mig21? When all you have to do is dodge the nose on 1circle (easiest shit to do), after that it’s out of speed and basically dead. You can outrate and energy trap all of those planes, MF/SMT already has the ultimate handheld premium to worry about and you want them to fight the straight up better version. There is no point to take a vertical, it’s not like it doesn’t have flares.
This plane has no place in 10.7 and that’s my stance, the mig21bis at 11.0 is way worse in the meta than it but it still stays at that place because it will curbstomp lower