They can sustain better then F-5C, it has been proved countless times.
MF’s engine is more then enough to deal with F-5C, once again you’re spreading misinformation.
Same goes for every single plane that has countermeasures.
Didnt saw a single that can outturn any other plane without one wing, good story tho.
İ also saw other planes ate couple missiles and cannon rounds and managed to still fly without too much issue. Yesterday my German Tornado got shot by Strela missiles yet i managed to land perfectly fine, so according to this logic German Tornado is op and needs br increase?
Sir, F-5C is F-5A with a refueling pod and other minor modifications for a Vietnam trial.
That’s it, it’s identical to F-5A in avionics & weapon system.
So many replies, and not a single image of an F-5C specifically bearing countermeasures of any sort lol
If you want to argue for any of those that actually had them, sure, but Gaijin chose the F-5C despite it being the version with CMs never mounted and as such, if y’all want to keep it so badly it should at bare minimum be renamed and remodeled.
Of course- That bare minimum is an insanely low standard, and its DM really should be looked at otherwise.
The images were posted multiple times, with another image posted by myself earlier.
F-5A=F-5C, same aircraft just minor non-weapon non-avionic changes.
Not sure why you’re begging for the F-5C to be made 9.7.
Quite the opposite, actually- I’d love to see the Skoshi Tiger at 9.7. With the configuration it actually historically had.
The bloody planes were taken out of service before countermeasures even began widespread use, and as such, if Gaijin wants to sell what’s essentially IRL an early-ish F5, they should do that instead of slapping unneeded, imaginary upgrades onto an aircraft that never historically got them.
And yes before you ask, regarding historical accuracy. I’m all for removing the R2Y2s, Ho-Ris, F-16AJ, and other similar fake vehicles once something more realistic can be found to replace them. The US is certainly not in the same spot certain other nations are where they need a fictionalised vehicle at that BR, and the F-5C would do just fine at 9.7 with no CMs as already shown by the T-2.
If you replace your brain with a wallet and buy a version of a jet that never mounted countermeasures in reality, well… You should get what you deserve in that regard. A regular Skoshi Tiger.
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Sure, with that Logic i should get M1A1 KVT instead of 105MM, cause you know in real life M1 KVT was actually based on M1A1, not 105MM model.
…With what I’ve said so far, did you really think that was some kind of gotcha? Yes, the M1 KVT should indeed be an M1A1. Gaijin messed up there, too, with their hastiness to use anything but the Battle Rating system for balance, and adding what should be a cosmetic skin for the M1A1 at best as an entire $70 premium. (And I’m not even going to start on why top-tier premiums should never be a thing, and how buying into them rewards terrible business models…)
Once again, as seems to be a pattern for your posts, all edge and zero point…
Why shouldn’t one be dissatisfied when an aircraft meant for wallet warriors gets put at a BR it shouldn’t purely because it got an ahistorical upgrade when it’d do just fine at a lower one without said upgrade, and be an actual representation of its historical self instead?
What’s your actual motive in this? If I’m just, y’know, complaining to complain according to you. Let’s say I take your part so far just as hostilely as you’ve taken mine, and say you’re purely defending the current implemenation of the F-5C because you want to keep your overtooled, ahistorical aircraft in its current state while I’m willing to give up the frankly great R2Y2s (especially V3, my beloved) for the sake of balance/historicity.
Because unlike your accusitions and claims F-5C doesnt overperform at 10.3 with countermeasures. İt performs good because average person in warthunder doesnt know how to deal with a plane that can do many jobs but not bein best at anything.
its the same reason why people also dont know how to perform at top tier, they dont study their rivals, they dont learn their mistakes and they simply blame other vehicles or people for those mistakes, its simply massive skill issue in %95 case.
Sadly your subjective opinion doesnt mean shit in general, many people will not give up on those vehicles that has same treatment in warthunder environment so therefore it doesnt matter what you’re thinkin.
İts safe to say that Developer team doesnt share the same opinion with you when it comes to balancing vehicles because if they did many vehicles would be much worse then it is now.
Oh, is that why american teams at top-tier are absolutely filled with them, and why most other fighters at-tier have to put vastly more effort into the game to get the same results, especially against an F-5C?
I’m sure you believe the A-10 is perfectly balanced at that BR, too, when in reality all that’s keeping the both of them in their current places is the swarm of players who don’t realize they can flare or do anything other than have a rudder measuring contest. Trust me, having had to deal with these players and fly against them constantly, it gets downright annoying when the slightest bit of competence and press of a button can easily throw a missile off their tail, while when I’m saddled with five of the bloody plane on the same team they don’t even seem to know that…
And once. Again. I support doing the same for every aircraft, tank, and ship that it can be done for. If the dev team had the same opinion as me when it came to balancing, we’d have a much wider BR ceiling and be better off for it, with an actual place for the vehicles ingame made awkward or unusable by current overcompression.
And why are it, and the A-10, so much more common when there are so many other top-tier premiums? What is the community’s concensus on these aircraft, and just why are they the popular choice, even among American premiums?
Why are the first things that come up just searching it’s name on YouTube…
“Best premium jet money can buy”
“BEST premium to grind USA”
“Legendary Tiny Jet Fighter”
“Your ticket to top-tier jets”
“BEST premium”
I think it just might be in a better spot than a lot of top-tier premiums, y’know? Especially looking at other nations, which get… An F-104 at 11.0 (lol), an 11.3 Phantom which gets to see F-16Cs (lol), and a Mirage with hard-to-use ordnance against its contemporaries…