It also is same for the jaguar but they get aim9gs all the same
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Honestly, I support this for most aircraft with the same problem. If not just moving them up and giving better armament, Giving the a split current (Early) version and a (Late) version with better armament seems like the move…
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You want those missiles? Especially Aim-9M?
Welcome to the 12.3 then where i will clap your poor F-1 with F-16C even harder :)
A jaguar with 9l will be useless as it br would be too high for the airframe
Implying 9Ms would put a flareless, worse F-104 at 11.3
Now that’s what I call a sensible chuckle moment.
Actually, looking at your record, it explains how little you seem to understand the T-2 and F-1 given you never played them and skipped your way to the top with the ADTW…
Honestly GR1A could recieve those missiles without getting Br bump but knowing Gaijin it will certainly get an br increase.
You’re the only person in here who’s constantly complaining (or i should say crying) about F-5C.
F-105 also doenst have any sort of Flare system while sitting at 10.0 and facing both rear and all-aspect missiles, same goes for Mig23BN, Mirage3C which is a plane i played more then enough or F-4F early, but i dont see people who’s using those planes coming here and complaining about F-5C all the time.
You dont need to play with every single vehicle in order to understand what is right and what is wrong but i dont expect you to understand this since this kind of behaviour is pretty typical on one nation players like you.
If you’re going to try and dunk on someone for comparing two same-BR fighter aircraft, you really should know more than just one.
And yes, the other aircraft you listed might need to be thrown a bone, especially the F-105 which the Vark just invalidates. What does that change?
The fact that this thread was originally created to give feedback that the overperforming monster of an apex fighter that is the F-5C should be brought down in some way?
Edit: Also, once again, assuming I’m a one nation player. It’s a neat joke, but it gets old fast when you repeat it like that…
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Thats funny considering i have countless planes who sits at similiar or same br while you only have Japanese F-1 and F104J which i also have.
You cant just thrown bone or make exception for them, those vehicles sits at those br’s because of their general performance and lacking in one area will certainly not gonna change the outcome in this environment.
F-5C is overperforming because of its high speed energy retention, tanky damage model and having very small Ir signature, not because of Countermeasure systems so therefore best solution is fix those problems and leave it at the same br but hey complaining about one thing that your favourite planes lack is much easier i assume?
Then you should stop acting like one of them.
A Jag GR.3A would be a nice addition. Basically Jaguar GR.1A with more powerful engines, AIM-9Ls, and HMD.
Harriers are also compatible with having flares,so where are flares for my GR.1? Or Starfighters being compatible with flares,where are flares for chinese F-104G or F-104J? So where they at,tell me.
Does GR1 manuel states it is compatible with flares or it did use flares during it service life? No.
Does Chinese and Japanese F104’s manuels states they are compatible with countermeasure systems or indicates that they used during their time? İf so make a bug report.
Also let me remind you even tho GR1 never armed with SRAAM in real life it has that armament in this game because manuel indicates it was compatible.
I think you should realize a lot of these things are “optional” Additions that can be considered part of balancing and placing vehicles at a appropriate BR in Warthunder
F-5C didnt used flares either, so thats another no. So why it have em. Typical Gaijin double standards when it comes to premiums, they did the same with Italian TAF,it didnt had flares irl,they gave it to it for “balance reasons” so ppl would buy it,then ppl raged why premium got em and TT one didnt,so they added em to TT one aswell.
F-5C is compatible with countermeasures system and other F-5 models on different countries shows it used during its service time.
İf we apply same Logic to every vehicle your precious GR1 should loose its SRAAM,F-4F’s should loose their Aim9-J’s, İtalian F104S’s should loose their Countermeasure systems,Swift F7 should loose its cannons cause it was never armed irl, Yak-141,F-16AJ should be removed from the game,Barak-II should loose its Sparrows and get its Python-4’s and Usa F-16C models should only armed with Amraam for BVR engagements.
What you’re doing is nothing but hypocracy.
I mean i guess we should yeet DM53 for Ariete, a whole bunch of vehicles and the armaments of a whole bunch of prototype aircraft.
To do what? Satisfy som relatively arbitrary standards?
Like the consistant thing in Warthunder is that making stuff up isn’t ok. And satisfying that requirement allows for quite a few liberties. Which in this case adding armaments/countermeasures to some aircraft that could mount them
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And as such i will await the day Gaijin adds Leduc 022 to Warthunder
I understand you dont want your sealclubbing vehicle to get worse, but you literally contradict yourself. F-5C is not compatible with flares,so isnt F-5A, they never mounted any. AJ shouldnt be ig as it never exist, Yak-141 exist and flew so thats fine,Barak should indeed never get Sparrows,16C could use late Sparrows without issues and did so in early 1990s. GR.1 with SRAAMs is right here,F-4F should indeed never get 9J but get its 9L like British Phantoms,i am totally fine with 104S not having CM as it didnt had em irl.
So yeah, defending F-5C only cause you want to continue to club innit, typical hypocrite fanboy of smth. Nuh uh dont nerf muh bby i club ppl with,i want to continue doing that.
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Does not mean it wasn’t compatible.
Wow he has alot kills with it but when i play f5c i get dunked on must be skill for the high kills
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