If you pull too hard. If you pull identically to an F-5C it loses no speed.
@Italy_Suffers Is claiming all facts in the world are fabrications and misinformation.
Bet they’ve called teachers fabricators.
Brother, people aren’t arguing about it in simulator, you don’t use precision hotas in RB which allows you to very finely control elevator.
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You finely control the mouse…
At this point you have No clue what you are talking about
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He never had a clue
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In some respects yes, but you also dont have an Aim-9J.
Which means a flareless F-5C would have to allways avoid a launch angle against a fighter with a lot of nose authority should it decide to use it.
So what, F-1 itself doesn’t have flares either
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Im talking about the T-2 here at 9.7
its the exact same as F-1, just 2 less missiles
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F-5C’s over-BR’d currently and people are arguing about its flares.
Its FM could get fully fixed to where it dogfights worse than a Mig-21SMT.
Its engines could get fixed [G91Y shares the same engines].
Then it’d be a worse T-2 with flares.
again you have no Idea what ur talking about
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And thats why a Flareless F-5C would likely be 9.7
You won’t believe what the T-2 also doesn’t have.
Wow. Its as if i allready know the differences between the T-2, F1 and F-5C.
Edit: it couldn’t possibly be that ive allready outlined the differences:
Therefore, if the F-1 was 10.3 with 4x 9Ps and the F-5C was 10.3 with 2x 9Es, the F-5C has much better flight performance. It only stayed at 10.3 because it was already garbage.
F-5C also have flares.
T-2 is comparable in flight performance, and it gets 2 vastly superior missiles and it has no flares.
That a flareless F-5C goes to 9.7 to match the BR of the T-2 is a very reasonable assumption
Still have no idea why people perpetrate this illusion. The T-2 and F-1 closely resemble the Jaguar in many ways, and use the same engines. And a Jaguar is no match for an F-5C in a dogfight.
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Having used the F-1 and T-2 against the F-5C i can say even without fine turn control i get advantagous positions and kill the F-5C.
And if the F-5C doesn’t have flares one can with reasonable certinity do a 1 turn as the F-5C has to allways avoid any possibility of a successful launch as the F-5C, or most planes for that matter, cannot dodge a correctly launched 9P/9J (they are afterall almost undodgeable)
Edit: you know having also done the same with the Jaguar with flares at 10.3
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Picture you posted shows F-104’s with countermeasures.
So whats your game?