its flares need to be removed since the ale-40 flare pods were introduced into service a few years after the F5C was removed from service, it only flew a few months in vietnam anyways.
also from the images i see the F5C did not carry aim9Es too, as the wing pylons seem to be used as external fuel tanks
F-5C flight performance is likely too high. Sustained turn rate is probably overperforming along with the F-5E’s but I cannot find a good EM graph for the F-5A/B/C… if anyone has one please DM me.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hIzLAh45I9sD
After this is fixed for F-5E it should have worse sustained turn rate than the F-5C does in-game…
No, F-5Cs used CM pods just not in US service. If it’s possible to mount it/use the system then Gaijin will consider it for balance purposes.
F-5C isn’t OP.
It is overperforming though, Gaijin simply refuses to fix some of the older flight models (especially the best selling ones). Currently F-5A is performing as F-5E should and F-5E is performing better than F-20A Tigershark.
Is it over performing? It did get a recent weight addition and isn’t as crazy as it once was, but if you say so.
Is it over powered? Most definitely not.
Having played it for over 300 matches and also playing some other planes at or around it’s BR, I can confidently say it’s not the best fighter out there. A-5C drips on it all day.
Well, here is the F-5E in-game as compared to the F-20A’s real world sustained turn rate chart
“Refuses”, not really around refusal, it’s around not having time to look into minor issues.
Especially because even after it’s “nerfed” if it’s nerfed too much it goes to 10.0 & continues selling.
Why is it so impossible to get a lock onto one? I can lock onto everything just fine but whenever it’s an F5 it’s just impossible.
There is nothing correct about the FM or damage model. Gaijin stated they are unwilling to fix the F-5 in my latest report on the F-5E (it is outperforming the F-20A Tigershark currently…)
Even aside from the FM, it’s impossible to get a lock on them, I fly behind them for 30 seconds within a few km and there is just no chance to lock onto them, why are they so insanely broken?
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Well I wouldnt expect it to affect the ability to lock onto them.
They just give off next to no heat signature in my experience… Even rear aspect 9Ps struggle to lock sometimes.
It’s bloody ridiculous that people are willing to argue in defense of this jet when its DM has been broken since release, its flight model outperforms even the best upgrades to the airframe, and it gets countermeasures it historically never mounted. It should really be at 9.7 with no CMs, as a near-direct counterpart to the Mitsubishi T-2/Early.
They have less of a heat sig then a harrier with their afterburner on the f5c afterburner
If you had to guesstimate, by what percentage would you say FM-wise the F-5C is overperforming?
I could calculate it all and find an average based on your bug report, but I really can’t be bothered.
The turn radius is ~600 something meters and it should be ~800+ during sustained turns as an example. I’ve taken a step back from reporting for a while because I’m not as active in the game.
Fair enough, its good to take a step back, I find myself making vehicle suggestions more than I play the game as of late.
But yeah those are quite interesting. I also found the F-5C engine temp curves albeit from Iran and that got closed as not a bug like your report. Clearly the F-5’s have some sort of immunity at the moment. I find it funny, because they would be pretty balanced at their respective br’s if they had a realistic FM change.
Yes because this has not happened before for QQ Balance reasons and QQ IRL vs Game all the Tom Cruse here thinks Gaijin needs to balance F-5C not considering how bad is Air Realistic anyway with the chances they implement from Bigger Maps is with the layout bases and ground targets from small maps only peripheral bigger Map making it stupid chance already
Shattered Idiotic chance hitting ppl with 30 mm cannons from NATO Jets is like dice playing Rus - Chinese Bias hitting you with 30mm cannon makes your jet explode
These same Shattered 7.62 mm guns are better than 20 mm cannons in low BR amazing chance
Try to play G91s and other Subsonic VS try-hards on F-104s , Mig-19s,Q-5s ofc chance was implemented before new Premium Jets came out right Gaijin ofc
Take Vaultour go bomb with no bomb sight getting all aspects in face wonder how come this plane go 9.0 BR ahh yes 40$ but new jets come out Balance reasons ofc
Wonder why F5E got Radar Lock Gun sight and Drakens don’t
Decompression my … Air Realistic it’s a Joke some Jets have 60 years out of Service playing vs jets that are used today if you guys write about Realism here for F5C then consider other Jets that struggle to even fly to the battle field
Record Guinness for Vehicles and 95% of them are just unable to compete because of the MM ofc high-level battles 80% of the planes in battle are Premiums we need to cope with this because Gaijin special Rewards suck hard
The F-5E got the EEGS because it stated that it used it in a flight manual, if I recall properly.
til this day the f-5c still haves its innacurate flares and the t-2 and f-1 doesnt have their chaff pods