…Also, Chaff pods would be genuinely helpful against F-4s and other radar slingers. So honestly, it’d still be a helpful addition.
You must be special kind of kiddo.
Manuels shows any F-5 model is compatible with those countermeasure systems which means it can equip perfectly fine.
Same method used on İtalian F-104’s even tho they didnt recieved irl but because they were compatible.
On the other hand Show me single source that states T2 and F-1 did recieved that kind of modification or they are compatible.
Go on kiddo im waiting for Flare system documents.
You want your chaff pods? Sure go on and complain to Gaijin why they didnt already implemented it but crying about F-5C’s flare system is a very pathetic move tbh.
Again, show me where a single F-5C actually mounted them and I’ll show you what you ask for-
Right. You can’t.
And neither can I, because Gaijin holds Japanese tier VI to a weird version of historical authenticity where they can’t get their best armaments while getting zero countermeasures, while an American aircraft with twelve of them ever built gets flares it never mounted, a frustrating DM, and far better dogfight capability at the same BR lul
You’re such a arrogant child who constantly refusing to see the difference.
Does manuel states that F-5C is compatible with countermeasure systems? Yes.
Does any manuel states T-2 and F-1 is compatible or recieved any sort of flare systems? No and that is the biggest difference.
This method applied on many vehicles:
İtalian F104’s recieved countermeasure systems because manuel states they are compatible, German F-4F’s recieved Aim-9J’s because of same reason and this list goes and on and on.
But for some reason you’re crying about one single American vehicle even tho other nations also recieved the same treatment.
Man you hypocracy is something special i must say, it reminds me of famous German mains tbh.
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Do you have the manuals for the Mitsubishi T-2 and F-1? You seem to be an authority on them.
Edit: And because said manuals would also state it could mount the Sparrow 9Ls and 9Ms, if we’re going to be sticklers about manual this and manual that. I’d happily take a BR bump to 10.7 just for those, just to give F-5Cs the clapping they deserve :)
It also is same for the jaguar but they get aim9gs all the same
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Honestly, I support this for most aircraft with the same problem. If not just moving them up and giving better armament, Giving the a split current (Early) version and a (Late) version with better armament seems like the move…
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You want those missiles? Especially Aim-9M?
Welcome to the 12.3 then where i will clap your poor F-1 with F-16C even harder :)
A jaguar with 9l will be useless as it br would be too high for the airframe
Implying 9Ms would put a flareless, worse F-104 at 11.3
Now that’s what I call a sensible chuckle moment.
Actually, looking at your record, it explains how little you seem to understand the T-2 and F-1 given you never played them and skipped your way to the top with the ADTW…
Honestly GR1A could recieve those missiles without getting Br bump but knowing Gaijin it will certainly get an br increase.
You’re the only person in here who’s constantly complaining (or i should say crying) about F-5C.
F-105 also doenst have any sort of Flare system while sitting at 10.0 and facing both rear and all-aspect missiles, same goes for Mig23BN, Mirage3C which is a plane i played more then enough or F-4F early, but i dont see people who’s using those planes coming here and complaining about F-5C all the time.
You dont need to play with every single vehicle in order to understand what is right and what is wrong but i dont expect you to understand this since this kind of behaviour is pretty typical on one nation players like you.
If you’re going to try and dunk on someone for comparing two same-BR fighter aircraft, you really should know more than just one.
And yes, the other aircraft you listed might need to be thrown a bone, especially the F-105 which the Vark just invalidates. What does that change?
The fact that this thread was originally created to give feedback that the overperforming monster of an apex fighter that is the F-5C should be brought down in some way?
Edit: Also, once again, assuming I’m a one nation player. It’s a neat joke, but it gets old fast when you repeat it like that…
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Thats funny considering i have countless planes who sits at similiar or same br while you only have Japanese F-1 and F104J which i also have.
You cant just thrown bone or make exception for them, those vehicles sits at those br’s because of their general performance and lacking in one area will certainly not gonna change the outcome in this environment.
F-5C is overperforming because of its high speed energy retention, tanky damage model and having very small Ir signature, not because of Countermeasure systems so therefore best solution is fix those problems and leave it at the same br but hey complaining about one thing that your favourite planes lack is much easier i assume?
Then you should stop acting like one of them.
A Jag GR.3A would be a nice addition. Basically Jaguar GR.1A with more powerful engines, AIM-9Ls, and HMD.
Harriers are also compatible with having flares,so where are flares for my GR.1? Or Starfighters being compatible with flares,where are flares for chinese F-104G or F-104J? So where they at,tell me.
Does GR1 manuel states it is compatible with flares or it did use flares during it service life? No.
Does Chinese and Japanese F104’s manuels states they are compatible with countermeasure systems or indicates that they used during their time? İf so make a bug report.
Also let me remind you even tho GR1 never armed with SRAAM in real life it has that armament in this game because manuel indicates it was compatible.
I think you should realize a lot of these things are “optional” Additions that can be considered part of balancing and placing vehicles at a appropriate BR in Warthunder
F-5C didnt used flares either, so thats another no. So why it have em. Typical Gaijin double standards when it comes to premiums, they did the same with Italian TAF,it didnt had flares irl,they gave it to it for “balance reasons” so ppl would buy it,then ppl raged why premium got em and TT one didnt,so they added em to TT one aswell.
F-5C is compatible with countermeasures system and other F-5 models on different countries shows it used during its service time.
İf we apply same Logic to every vehicle your precious GR1 should loose its SRAAM,F-4F’s should loose their Aim9-J’s, İtalian F104S’s should loose their Countermeasure systems,Swift F7 should loose its cannons cause it was never armed irl, Yak-141,F-16AJ should be removed from the game,Barak-II should loose its Sparrows and get its Python-4’s and Usa F-16C models should only armed with Amraam for BVR engagements.
What you’re doing is nothing but hypocracy.