F-5C Flares need to be removed. It is FICTIONAL

Generally never was as I’ve been telling you.
Do we really need to keep circling around a point I made which you put out of context?

Okay then if you never made that claim ive completely missunderstood

Sorry

Insight:

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Words i considered to downplay or otherwise mischaracterize the differences.

Hopefully that gives some insight as most of these were the responses to me implying that the 9P/J offered significant uplifts allowing for way more oppertunities that the 9E

T-2 CAN pull more AOA, doesn’t mean you should pull more AOA.
If you limit your AOA to that of an F-5C you perform similarly while still out accelerating it; there’s a good reason I never dogfought genuine threats in the F-5A for China.
The chaff pod historical report is less than half a year old, and it takes time to develop unique countermeasures that no one is going to use.

I see what you mean but but there was always the scope of Br range, countermeasures most efficient use possible and the like.
For F-5 missiles are a sidearm at that Br especially as long as it has countermeasures itself.
In a clean comparison the 9P is of course as you said the superior missile.
Until Mirage 2000, MiG-29 and F-16 there were few planes F-5E could not dominate in a full uptier.
While carrying only 2 AIM-9J. 10.7 is a blessing for the late F-5s of course.

That is why I kept saying I was not looking at 9E/P comared to each other in a vacuum without the aircraft they are being mounted on or the Br range to consider.

F-5 would slap T-2 in a rate fight I’m sure. You can pull hard enough in T-2 but even with it’s superior thrust it’s aerodynamics are not designed for the job as F-5s aerodynamics are.

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There is real differences vetween 9E and 9J flare rejection,… those have been datamined, calculated, known and even bug reported.

9P’s, not J’s,… there is also a difference in those

Good thing War Thunder players don’t rate fight.
I had to remind myself how much F-5A bled speed so I test flew my Chinese one, and it’s just as bleedy as T-2.

@Cpt_Bel_V P [specifically P1] is just export J.

Yeah the 9Es of the 5C are indeed very secondary.

Yeah i can sorta see where you were comming from if i take the responses as if they were allways packaged with the plane. Tho that was not very obvious to me at the very least

Unless there are some differences not noted, they are copy-paste based on the statcard and how ive been able to use them.

Idk if there are datamine differences between them, if there are i have not noticed (edit: in gameplay)

From personal experience I’d only want to dogfight a F-5 even a C in a T-2/F-1if the situation favours me.

≠ here you don’t need to put =/= F-5C is a beauty.

ah, i changed it now. hope you like it

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So, what you’re saying is the F-1 has exactly as much justification to receive flares as the F-5C?

İts almost 2024 and people still talking about whether F-5C’s countermeasure should be removed or not.

Guys accept it, Gaijin will certainly not gonna remove countermeasure system from F-5C, its one of the best selling premium in the game.

Also technically it can mount countermeasure systems so therefore there is no need to argue.

Defeatist mindset helps nobody, but given you have a 60%+ WR with the F-5C over 300+ battles I severely doubt that’s the sort of mindset in play here

As i expected you already checked my service record in order to justify your point by simply using this Logic.

Well too bad that F-5C is compatible with countermeasure systems and you can do nothing about it.

As are a whole lot of aircraft that don’t get them around this tier, and there’s nothing you can do about that.

i mean, if it does. It would probably become 10.7. Same way the F-5C would probably drop if it got them removed.

if it can mount them its good enough justifications for standards set by this game. And idk if people would like a 10.0 F-5C more than the current one. but ignoring that, it having flares on it makes for a good plane to play for top tier newbies

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Nope.