F-8E is a completely different machine compared to F-5A/C/E.
Mirage IIIC does have Magic IIICJ does not. That is the only difference between them as far as I know which does not justify higher Br.
Even at only 5% it is still the only stats available “in public” - there ain’t nuthin’ better for any of us to look at!
Experience and discussion. Relying on stats that are known to be wrong can be extremely misleading.
Then just play the game and vibe.
Caring how you perform against other players is a waste of time TBH.
Thunderskill won’t even accurately tell you that.
Obviously it isn’t nor has ever claimed to be a tool for vehicle comparing.
I mean one can look at it, just be aware of what you are looking at.
Honestly its the perfect case study of sample bias.
Go bug report, i would love having a F-104 with 6X Aim-9, and with full downed flaps at current BR.
They’re a one time use packet launched when the airbrake is opened.
So not a good choice.
Still more than 0 flares at all,…
F5c probably one of the most playable aircraft for its tier. I find it really fun and the addition of 20mm cannons on its nose probably make it my favourite high tier gun fighter. And it has 2 AIM-9E missiles. Which when used correctly, are lethal.
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???
You’re acting as if there’s a real world of difference between 9Js and Es when everyone can just pop chaff anyways, and as if the F-1 doesn’t have to deal with a god-awful 9B stock grind while the F-5C gets off Scott free
T-2 also has 9Js at 9.7 while retaining F-5C like abilities.
And yes, there is a world of difference between 9Js and 9Es.
“F-5C like abilities”
So the T-2/F-1 can afford to actually get stuck into a fight (despite losing a ton of energy on practically any turn after the first) without the get-out-of-jail-free button the (unhistorical) flares are for the F-5C, and survive as many hits as that flying tank of a glitched DM does?
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Seriously, there’s barely anything to even suggest any F-5C ever carried flares, meanwhile the T-2 and F-1 have use of chaff pods documented…
In Warthunder there is a massive difference between the E and the J/P. Its more maneuverable and you get a way better FOV.
Which in practice offer way better engagement angles and oppertunities for lofting or wierd trajectories towards targets
…Weirdly enough, in theory, yeah, they provide good engagement angles.
As someone who’s currently using Ps in the F-1, though? They just get flare/chaffed easily by every. Damn. Aircraft. At the tier, doubly so for all the prems…
T-2 and F-1 are glorified F-104s currently. They have good missiles are fast and pull high AOA.
Both will bleed all their speed when yone pull high AOA however. Without countermeasures they are a lot of work and their effectiveness depends on situation.
F-5C is clearly superior.
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Have had them ignore or track flares into the aircraft occasionally
But getting flared is the norm untill 9Ls or other flare resistant missiles. So as far as the F-1 goes, it gets some very nice missiles at its BR. Especially because of the engagement angles it offers.
Exactly. You have to put in so, so much work in a F-1/F-104J to do what F-5s (and most other aircraft in the 10-11.x range) can do with just a press of a button and get a missile off your a**.
Well, tbf 80% of that is just keeping yourself out of peoples engagement zones. Which in a F104 is super easy.
Another 15% is draining the energy of missiles on their flight path. The last 5% is being dead because you forgot to look at your rear while being up high.
It’s not just the missiles but also your ability to engage the enemy at all.
F-5C has the sustained maneuverability and energy retention. Slightly less top speed and acceleration and slightly worse missiles.
Here the AIM-9E is just as useful in many situations as the AIM-9P can be.
Especially sicne the F-5 can get close and personal where T-2 and F-1 have to rely on their missiles.
Many aspects are coming together. Cocnerning War Thunder F-5 is similar to a 109 in it’s versatility and ease of use.
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