F-4F KWS LV (ICE): Arch-Phantom!

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i mean french eurocopter hap isnt able to physicaly shoot hot missles

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Remove them.

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Both, when at the same AB time, have the same turn rate.
It’s just that Mig-29SMT’s dry thrust is more fuel efficient.

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Alright half of the world and don’t forget the Polish F-16s lol

But yea they don it to us with just Canada and Australia as we want them to replace India.

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KWS-> Kampwertseigerung and LV-> Luftverteidigung

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IRIS-T was only experimentally mounted on the F-4 ICE, this is like the SRAAM on the Hunter F.6 situation

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Many planes have experimental weapons vs. air, vs. ground. Iris is what this useless brick needs.

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It should’ve been a Dutch F-16 MLU after the MiG-29G IMHO but I can accept waiting for a Swiss F/A-18C instead. Although keep in mind the Swiss Hornets are kitted for specialized air superiority/defense missions, it won’t have the best CAS loadout

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I was making a joke about what german mains have so far claimed for the german TT, thanks for proving it.

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I’d rather have Germany suffer than to have everyone else go against a missile that they effectively can not counter.

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Tbh, the Ice is introduced too late. You can’t seriously put up a Phantom into the current Su-27/F-15/F-16 meta. They should ditch it and just give us the NL F-16.

Unfortnately Germany’s closest ally made its way to France^^

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I’m more interested in putting its BR down to 12.3, especially since there’s a non-zero chance the upcoming 13.0’s might get put to 13.3

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And there’s still no reason to BR the F-4F ICE above the Eurofighter Typhoon’s BR for an OP missile.

And on top of that, either everyone gets it or no one does.

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MiG-29G never got the Adder but only had the R-73 and the R-27ET1/R-27ER1

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Step 1 = Beg, beg, beg.

Step 2 = Excitement

Step 3 = Shock

Step 4 = Anger

Step 5 = Beg for another nations toys…

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didn’t even have the R-27E’s, those were developed after the fall of East Germany and never exported to the newly unified Germany

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so the dev really talking about the smokeless one AIM-9L(I)-1？

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or add smoke to swedish missles. We have yet to get a clarification

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I’m just stating facts on what I see and it’s a public forums I can reply to anyone who I like. : )

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OK, I was just looking for it, it really had the Adder, Archer, Aphid and the Alamo, but I’m wondering why the Germans don’t get them, sry