If you can’t argue a point without screaming I have a skill issue maybe don’t argue at all
You weren’t even really arguing though.
All you were doing was reflecting.
- “There are already multiple Swiss vehicles in the German tree”
You: “Doesn’t mean anything [gives some obscure example that actually sabotages your own point]”
- “reliable leakers have already said that the Swiss will go to Germany”
You: “nuh uh clearly they are not reliable because they have a couple vehicles wrong on their list”
- “Smin commented on how Swiss vehicles would go to Germany”
You: “nuh uh, clearly corporate talk.”
I do have 2 more points:
-
You are quick to discredit what everyone else says, doesn’t matter if it’s a random on the forum, a leaker or even a community manager. However you have absolutely 0 credibility yourself lol.
-
So you have no problem insulting players and entire playerbases, but you suddenly get buthurt by someone doing it back to you?
I hate to use this word, but I’m sorry that I hit a nerve by saying the truth princess.
2 Likes
If its the L then yeah man massive L.
The thing is, fhe su22 isnt too bad of a platform. Good CM count as well, genuinely can get in drop two, use rockets n leave.
If it works at top tier on a su25 surely a su22 can pull it off?
The M1A1HC and clickbait are bonkers rn woth the m829A2 round tbh ive thoroughly enjoyed the HC at 11.7 clubbing leo2a4s n chally 1s etc with it.
But yeah i get what you mean if hes negative in the 122.
Im currently slowly clawing my stats back from when i was younger playing. Fucking nightmare to do.
1 Like
All i will say on thet opic of the swiss to germany is this, i really hope they do what they did with the ram and give the hunter as well to britain. as it is the best hunter and is pretty much all british. the other dude ur arguing with has lost the plot tbh
Quote me where I said that, do it.
I said the vehicles have the same amount of tangibility. There’s no exception, if it’s on the list it is the same amount of real as all the other vehicles on the list.
Because it doesn’t, the USSR doesn’t have a Czech subtree now does it. You’re making exceptions for specific vehicles because they support your point.
Until things change, Italian vehicles went to Germany until things changed. He only said it to stop you guys from haranguing him about it. If you don’t understand that it’s not a definite statement with a bunch of clauses they can back out of I dunno what to say to you.
Quote me lmao
It is an objective lie to say Switzerland is a German subtree. There’s no way around it.
1 Like
Lots of stuff is put into development but never released.
1 Like
Ok? I’m not really sure how that’s relevant but yeah that happens
Like I said, when you talk down on people you have no problem with it. However as soon as someone else does the same it’s suddenly bad. Sorry the truth hurt you in the other post I made.
You guys? I’m not even a German main lol.
I think I have more nations at top tier than you can even hope to have a year or 2 from now.
2 Likes
level 64 with a handful of games he is mate. hes just trolling dont go for it man.
read the convo that happened n jesus man xD
you make valid points hes just throwing insults
2 Likes
It will be fun teasing this guy in December when Switzerland (likely) gets properly announced tbh. Might even put him next to someweirdname in the “5 stages of denial” meme :"D
3 Likes
Depends on which su25 because the 25T is just 0.4 BR higher and is a better CAS platform. The only 11.3 su25 is the BM and i’d still take that over the su22. Granted both of these are not in the german tree so bringing the su25 into this isn’t that good of an argument.
1 Like
im not bringing it into the argument, i havent used the 22 yet so im actually asking the question for it, im currently using the Su25BM yeah which is 11.0 in GRB now funnily enough.
The su25 though in general i mean, is slower than the Su22s and the Su25BM has near enough the same loadout if not less than the Su22M4.
but yeah im asking cause another CP su22 doesnt really solve any issue germany has for cas other than if people have no cas at all and just buy it.
so overall the su25s are better than the Su22 due to better long range weapons E.G the KH38
Its ok to say Swiss being a German sub-tree was only a thought but Gaijin pretty much confirmed it when they added the P-16 so…
This is also not including the datamines.
1 Like
Well the SM3 is the only 25 that gets the KH38 and its at 12.3 so I don’t really count it. But the 25T/39 and BM all have similar loadouts (if not better) with better avionics all for them being subsonic.
1 Like
i see, so it boils down to more what you prefer, better maneuverability but sub sonic, or super sonic and worse manueverability.
the 22M4 has a pretty substantial loadout for the platform compared to my su25BM. AT least germany has some form of cas with FnF missiles that can be used at top tier. not exactly ideal but something at least
Yeah that was all but confirmed with the P-16
But id like to see the Hunter F58 to go to britain as well.
They just did it with the ram so why not the hunter.
again that doesnt matter one wit. The F111C is australian. the demand in the british tree was from the australians who used Britain. They could of just not added the advark to britain. Or they could keep doing what they are doing e.g adding the ram over to britain as well. and piss off more of the fan base every time.
Russian and Indian players i know are upset that India is going to Britain and the Aussies and Canadians i play with are upset, canadas literally split across 3 trees xD
And the aussies i play with are now pissed off they have to get the AIM and its for america but literally everyother piece of their equipment lies in britain.
and againm why did i have to grind out the hawker hunter F58 for germany? its swiss yet its british design and manufactured, why not go to britain as a squadron vehicle then bounce over to germany as well when switzerland is introduced, not be introced years before the introduction of the swiss tree in a tree that has literally nothing to do with it.
2 Likes
Wow, it’s a full quote with context, crazy I know.
Let’s break down exactly what that means so you can’t take it out of context again:
It is a finishing statement regarding his inability to complete a full argument without saying I’m coping about something I near fully agreed with him on. It’s a unique pattern I see with the Swiss subtree people, if someone disagrees with them on even the smallest point they explode into brainless spewing.
Understand now? Let’s continue:
There’s probably 4 people in this world I hate, it’s amusing you think randos on the internet are special enough for me to care about them when I close this tab.
Collective you referring to people claiming Switzerland is a sub tree WHEN IT IS NOT.
Good for you.
And now, my final word in this conversation because something went terribly wrong on this forum page about 6 hours ago:
Switzerland is NOT a sub tree of Germany, it may be in the future but saying it is right now is a lie. If you read what I was talking about before sticking your head into a conversation with someone else you would understand entirely what this is about. Until it is officially confirmed Switzerland is not a subtree of Germany. It’s not an arguable subject because it’s an objective fact. If you think this was about anything else go up and do a little close reading.
1 Like
major off topic mate.
switzerland is pretty muhc confirmed at this point, if sminn is saying it in a discord itll be announced soon.
they can literally lose their jobns for that xD