The F-20 should swap places with the m2k, make the m2k 12.7 and the F-20 12.3.
I don’t even have the F-20, and I have the mirage2k, but when you compare the F-20 to the F-16 ADF or other variants that carry sparrows, it is worse in every way.
This is the way, I think the f-20 with a 4x Fox-3 2x Fox-2 loadout would be really viable in 13.0. It could use a few more CM but honestly It would be a solid loadout like the JF-17.
I think the F-20 should go down to atleast 12.3. It would be a bit strong at 12.0 but honestly that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
I have like 600 matches in the F-20 and while my stats are not superb I attribute that to learning the game at top tier.
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the only things imo the mirage f1 does better then the f20 is the amount of CMs and the magic 2s
imo the f20 should be 12.3 since it only carries 2 fox1s and 2 9ls on its most optimal loadout
also i’m against the f20 getting its mockup armrams (unless the version with armrams gets added into the TT or event [i would not play it]), really, if you wanna play what the f20 would be with armrams, play the jf17, the only difference is that the f20 would be a bit worse due the lower CM amount
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And also since the AV-8C has 2 Aim 9g missiles, powerful missiles but the F-5C has 2 Aim-9E missiles which are lackluster for 10.7 please increase br of AV-8C and decrease BR of F-5C
I have both the F-20 and the Jf-17 and I think this is a pretty accurate take (though I just finished researching the Jef so I dont have much experience with the Chinese F-16), But I would still love to get AIM120’s on the F-20 simply because it would be a solid premium and think it would be a great way for people to grind the US tree like the new Swede Prem.
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Gaijin will never add aim120 to the F-20, unless they add a new F-20 with Fox3’s to sell a new vehicle.
Buffing an old premium to higher tiers is like throwing away future sales
Thing is F-20 FM is massively overperforming but they don’t want to fix it
I was thinking that the Javelin has 4x 30mm ADEN at 8.3 but the Typhoon only has a single 27mm Mauser. So Typhoon to about 9.0?
:P
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3x 25G SARH hardly matters when they can be 1-tap chaffed in any aspect
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ok, as i played MF.1 enough for the last month and i have F-20 which i haven’t touched yet , you are TOTALLY wrong.
MF.1 SARH… they are way too bad. Don’t even compare.
Also the Magic 2 IRCCM capability… is WAY too overrated. It has IRCCM, when you are directly behind around 1,8km and less and in a very certain aspect on the sides. Front aspect gets decoyed by a fly passing between you and the opponent .
And i’ve played with 9Ls and i’ll tell you they work in a very similar way and i can make Python 3 shots work like Magic 2 shots, just in less range.
So while, yes, F-20 is 12,3 material, MF.1 is not even 11.7. It’s more comparable with MLD than with any 12.0s. MLD has good SARH, MF.1 has good IR. But, yeah…
Should we we play MF.1 stop pulling good scores and cry more in the forums?
Same for F-20 players…
No, we just need logic in the MM and over 100iq people managing it… Here doesn’t happen.
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nah the magic 2 irccm is not overrated. as a mirage player myself i can say it is great. almost always guaranteed kill from inside 1.5km which youll get into often thanks to speed. rather have magic 2 than aim9m.
python 3 dont have irccm and i feel like it gets flared often even sometimes from close. hate it.
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Yeah, that would change the BR and rank of the F-20 to Rank 8, and they can’t do that because they already sold it as a rank 7. In an ideal world, they released the F-20 from the get-go with Aim-120s at rank 8 but here we are.
The missile accelerates super fast and gives no time to countermeasures. In a 2-km launch, the delay between you hitting the key and the flares popping out means the missile is already about 1km away. It’s insanely good and not “overrated”. Infact, I think it’s a bit unfair to deal with.
also some planes at that tier don’t have enough flares to pre flare or theyll run out pre flaring and then dont have any for the missile launch
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Gross misrepresentation of their weapons and capability
How many times have I had to debunk the “give F-20 its AMRAAMs” statement at this point…
:(
If the F1 only had Magic 1s, it’d be 11.0 lmfao
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In regard to this, AIM7F is significantly better kinetically so not very comparable. Also manoeuvrability and radar goes in favour of F20, so over all it is significantly better, maybe not by 0.7, by compression is common place RN in this BR range.
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AIM-7F for 12,7 is comparable with 530F at 12.0. Just don’t play them.
You do not know what you are talking about.
F-20 is more compareable to Mirage 2000 in game than it is to Mirage F.1.
F-20 likely should be at the same BR as M2K which was just moved to 12.7.
Compared to F-16A at 12.3 F-20 is superior on average due to it’s AIM-7F’s.
In a duel F-16A would win in the long run but that has little to nothing to do with ARB.