Totally agree, after flying jets with MAWS it is more of a distracting element than a useful one that gives you constant false positives from missiles going for your teammates, at least for AirRB, in sim it might be more useful.
Radar is about the same.
Missiles are just a downgrade overall
FM performance is a downgrade, speed and acceleration is very similar with barely any difference, but turning performance is a considerable downgrade.
On high speed f16c is much better
In the last dev they nerfed the F-16C block50 speed to the levels of the sufa. I can’t test the sufa without CFT yet so I cant check out if they changed something, but the F-16C still has the nerfed sea level top speed.
At high altitude I can’t tell because I didn’t test.
But the fastest F-16s now are the block10/15/20 now (Edit: F-16A variants were also nerfed in top speed, they have a similar 1450kph top speed to the F-16C at sea level too)
instead of moving it down thing that it would not change something for the sufa they should put Python-4s and leave it at 14.0 simple as that.
maybe f16 ace will save us
Devs said no, it will only get python-4 when other jets/nations get similar missiles at the same time
Its hypocrisy cuz gaijin doesnt care about equivlants for israel from other tt
And where is the 120b??
They said no to that too, because sufa did not use it IRL or something.
But then we have a bunch of jets using old weaponery that they too never carried, like some nato jets using old variants of sidewinders that they never carried, or the mig29 using r-60ms etc.
Everywhere you look, double standards.
thats gonna go as not a bug because you cant fit the aim 120 right next to the bomb irl
it would collide with the fins
also adding the p4 to the sufa would make it better but because gaijin thinks the missile doesn’t have an equivalent they refuse to add it
even though the real equivalent to the p4 is the r73
also the p4 is heavier and a bit more draggy than p5 so i dont expect it to be that good unless its still burning
Didn’t stop them before when adding the R-27ER with no equivalent. Or the rafale situation lately
Just got sufa and my first thought is Ive NEVER SEEN THIS FAT AF JET AT 14.0
They straight-up denied bug reports with images like that
am literally having brain meltdowns trying to spade this i´ve never suffered before what am suffering with this jet right now, not even 13.7 would save this jet from uptiers, the only thing that could save it is an upgrade in its armament specially for close and medium range to have some advantages as a support fighter when you are outnumbered by the enemy otherwise you are cooked, even the 13.7 jets outperforms you.
That’s why I’ve been saying I would not bother with it unless it was 13.3. 13.7 is a fair BR for it, but even then it would get outclassed by most 13.7s
thats why the only option to make this jet viable at the BR it is, its by adding the missiles it should have. getting down in BR its not gonna solve the problem, the devs just need to stop messing around with us and put his butts to work.
Not rly working since its allready in the files
I only want it spaded because it seems like a decent CAS aircraft for my ground lineup, for whenever I play top tier Israel ground again.
I think the easiest and most consistent way to spade it is focusing on ground targets with it.
You might use 2x spice 2000 + 2 spice/gub 39 to kill a base. Then use the remaining 6 spice small bombs to target light tanks/trucks/pillboxes or if none available, the stationary AA trucks. Or just target those if you have no spice 2000.
You will have stock missile loadout for a while and ground pounding with the spice kit early match makes more sense.
