What makes the sufa deserving of 14.0? It has about the worst F-16 FM paired with the worst top-tier missile loadout.
If anything, it is a sidegrade to the F-16D at 13.3
What makes the sufa deserving of 14.0? It has about the worst F-16 FM paired with the worst top-tier missile loadout.
If anything, it is a sidegrade to the F-16D at 13.3
according to gaijin aim120C is really good despite being one of if not the worst top tier ARH missile
it is not even close to being one if not the worst top tier arh missiles
its just slightly less accelerating and slightly less agile aim120a.
unless you are trying to say you would take r darter or derby instead of aim120c lmaoooooo
its objectively the worst top tier fox 3, and it isnt even close. r darter is 13.3
13.7 alongside the F-16C would make the most sense. Unless they are planning it to get buffs in the coming updates like P-4s? and just pre-empted the BR?
“r darter is 13.3” ok tell that to the british gripen? and its not even as close in being bad as r darter or derby
gaijin legimately think the aim120c5 is worth an uptier, that is insane to me. must be MatAWG subscribers
aim120c is considerably less agile in the initial launch and slower to accelerate when compared to aim120a.
The Derby/R-darter is faster accelerating than both and much more agile, just suffers with low speed retention at long range.
I’d say Aim120A >/= Derby >> Aim120C
i mean, you will win a fight with an aim120c5 EVERY TIME if you can manage to push the fight sub 15 kilometers. besides aim120c5 is the worst missile at 14.0/3 by a wide margin
Aim-120C5s are great if you are up high and fast, and looking to exploit their range advantage. But given how easy they are defeat in that theatre, and how the F-16I isnt well suited for that type of combat… The C5s are probably the worst possible ARH missile they could get. R-Darter or Derby, whilst they have major issues in any form of BVR fight, would actually serve the F-16I better in a WVR fight. What they should do is give the F-16i Derbys alongside the Aim-120C5s. Taking a mix would probably be quite good
Derby-ER and P-4s in the future would make the F-16I stand out
Yeah… C5s should be worthy of a BR increaes, but with how they are modeled… not worth the BR increase over the F-16C alone. The other upgrades the F-16I gets might nudge the scales, but im not sure by how much.
i can agree that if i were sub 20-ish km i would rather have derby/rdarter over 120c
however
my personal playstyle is flying high, fireing arh over 20km, and notching if needed, i find multipathing too rng.
with that in mind, for me 120c5 is a superior missile.
and no i dont agree that because it has 120c it should go to 14.0, i also agree that it should be the same br as 16c. even if it does have more cm and slightly better radar
i also fly high, but firing over 20kms is 90% of times a coin toss, i do it every game but its rarely effective, its just too easy to defeat fox 3s at those ranges
I compared the F-16I sufa with the stock loadout with CFTs to the F-16C block 50, I ditched the missiles and did some tests with infinite fuel with minimum fuel + the CFTs that I could not remove.
In the block 50 I brought the equivalent extra weight in fuel to match the sufa, the empty CTFs by themselves weight 441kg, so I brought about 2600kg of fuel on the block50 which is around 80%
The F-16I performs considerably worse in turn rate. Top speed is similar if nothing changed from the dev, but with the CFTs it gets a massive drag penalty so I cannot confirm that before I unlock the jet.
i personally found it more effective then not
i also tend to focus on the targets which are trying to multipath, since if you are high enough, the missile trajectory will kind of ignore the multipath.
you can unequip the cfts. that is if you own the vehicle.
Yep. So as always, and something Gaijin doesnt really seem to understand. Players should always be given the choice.
Mine is largely the same, which is why I quite like the C5s on the Typhoon and why the ASRAAM will be the better IIR missile for me in the future. But Id still love to see C5s get some buffs
Not without unlocking it first
Haha. That is a 100% Gaijin move right there
(Or do you mean the aircraft and its always on in test flight?)
You just cannot remove them if you havent researched the jet and you want to test flight. After you own you can make a new loadout without CFTs