We are talking about cas ofc
Agreed sufa is just a worse f16c barak at higher br
Its more like a block50 at 14.0. The barack has derby which gives it options that both the block50 and the sufa don’t get.
Do you recommend stock grinding the F16C barack? I never did because I already have the US F16C and the F16D crewed, and it would essentially be like playing the F16D at 13.7, the FM is not a big difference.
The f16c barak its the same like f16c from the usa but less 500kg thrust (Its berly noticable to my understanding) and u get more cm (180 i think)
Also it does have better fm then f16d and u feel it cuz the less weight
I found it very fun that u can take both 120 and derby so u can start the match in bvr and after drop to the furball so yea i recommend it
It also great at cas cuz it can pretty much do everything f16d can do but better and on the same br(all tho sufa and raam are on the same br too and better then both at cas so idk)
It’s lighter too. But the block50 FM is still marginally better.
I rarely play ground RB, and I never touched israeli ground. I play ground arcade but for air, only AirRB matters for me, that’s why I asked if its worth it. I haven’t touched the block 50 for some time too, I’d rather play 13.3 with the F-16D or the F-16A MLU since you fight less 14.3
In what?
From what i sae they fm is nearly identical
Block50 is faster and has a marginal advantage in sustained turn rate, it has a little bit more TWR. The block40 is lighter by about 170kg or so, which gives it a very small advantage in instantaneous turn rate.
FM aside, the block40 has some more countermeasures and access to derby which makes it the more interesting option, but at 13.7 I have better options, The J-10A for example is also a light fighter with decent FM and a much better kit.
The F-16A MLU is almost an F-16C at 13.3, the lack of HMD with aim120 is not a big miss. And the F-16D is just a F-16C barack with extra 250kg (would be lighter than the F-16C block50 if not for that useless passenger in the back) at 13.3 and I’m not missing the aim120s much tbh.
When 13.7 gets a more favourable matchmaker I might stock grind it, it will be the 8 or 9th F-16 I will stock grind lol
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Valid j10 is insane
But it does
U arent getting much uptiers and u are insane at downtiers
I think most ppl would take the f16c barak over the american one
I feel like 13.3 gets more downtiers, and your average match is a partial uptier, playing 13.0 to 14.0. The F-16D is quite comfortable there because most players in those matches are 13.0 and 13.7.
When I play 13.7, most matches are 13.3-14.3, a partial uptier, same as before but against stronger opposition without a considerable advantage over the 13.3 F-16s.
Yeah but I haven’t touched the F-16C for a while. At 13.7 I usually pick up the J-10A or the F-2 which is much more interesting than the F-16C, although it’s not that great because its slow and limited to 4 fox3s
Yea i get what ur saying f16d is good but its not the same experiance as f16c when u can do bvr and close range while having amzing fp
If u searching for 13.7 meta then sure take the j10 or su27sm which has great matchmaker but if ur looking for unique experiance then i recommend it
Then I also have the F-15J(M) which kinda does the same with a better loadout. More missiles, more counteremasures, AIM-120 for bvr, AAM-4 that works just as well for bvr + works for HOBS and a AAM-3 (a better AIM-9M), and has the best F-15C FM because it’s lighter than the others, not as agile as the F-16 but still good.
Wish I had a reason to play the F-16C barack
sound like u want to play meta
F15jm is great but its very diffrent then f16c
Derby are much diffrent then aam4 they are better at close range but lacks at long range
Its just playing f16d but with the option to bvr with 120 and better fm which was very fun for me and its a unique experiance that i reccomend if u want to try new stuff
But again if u want 13.7 meta then yea f15jm is better
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It’s not that I want to play the meta, I just have the exact same playstyle in other vehicles that offer even more.
I love F-16s but stock grind is annoying so I need to have a good reason to do it in terms of playstyle variety.
I often do “multirole” for fun instead of strictly air to air pvp, that’s far from meta. Sometimes I just do little personal missions or challanges, like avoiding everyone and trying to take out all their AAA in the airfield for no reason other than gameplay variety.
For example, if the sufa had spice 250 in the inner pylons I would play it even at 14.0 just for some multirole roleplay in AirRB, even though it is the most unmeta jet.
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Hello gaijinners! Why is this pos still 14.0?
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Gaijin still thinks the C-5 is the best top tier missile
Why is it still 14.0 when it has the same (or slightly worse) air-to-air capabilities as 13.7 F-16C?
Dont u know that maw is op as hell???
also its israeli so its getting the french treatment
Jokes aside yea its stupid and i wonder whats gaijin exuse for this clear discrimination
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Don’t forget the C5s are like the best MRAAM at the moment. Like seriously. When are they going to buff MICA EM and R-77-1?
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Refer to my message just above yours
gaijin must believe that they make a very powerful missile named aim-120c5
and the F-16I has not one, not two but SIX OF THEM!!! its so overpowered
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