Give the F-16A Block 15 OCU the AGM-65 and at least the AIM-7’s cause it has them irl and other planes on 12.7 like the Mig-29 also have SAHR Missiles. i mean you can also give the Block 15 OCU the AIM-120 it also had but that would be to much.
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Just no, that thing is already undertiered as it is
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Do you have evidence?
not irccm missiles.
R73 for my poor fulcrum when?
But yea please give some sources, and the F-16A OCU is already undertiered at 12.7, it’s better (for arb purposes) than the F-16A (13.0)
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Based on what they have said probably the existence of the Thai F-16 OCU given they also mentioned aim-120’s which neither F-16 OCU in-game should have. As far as I can tell it wouldn’t have any hope to use any radar guided missiles since given the F-16 Block 15 didn’t come standard to use radar guided missiles, I think it goes without saying without the iff antennas they are incapable of using radar guided missiles, otherwise the F-16 ADF wouldn’t be its own thing. Granted though I honestly can’t wrap my head around though the ability to use active radar homing missiles since from what I can tell any F-16 requires iff antennas to use aim-120’s or aim-7’s yet the F-16C and F-16D for Isreal have them in-game despite them not being present in any image I can find of them irl, and whenever I do find images of Israeli F-16’s with radar guided missiles it always is the F-16I Block 52. I also found the same thing since I was looking at the Indonesians air tree suggestion which talks about Indonesian F-16C’s having the ability to use them and that the way to tell them apart from their F-16 MLU’s is the lack of those iff antennas, but yet again any images of Indonesian F-16’s with aim-120’s present I have found are those with them present including the F-16C’s. This is also not to mention that based off what I was told for a topic I made around the Thai F-16 before the update dropped how someone brought up that the Thai one is a mix between the normal OCU and an OCU 2 which has left me confused still, since unless the MLU is the OCU 2 it doesn’t make that much sense to me still since the upgrades required to allow them to use radar guided missiles is what takes them from being the OCU into the MLU. (If someone can explain the whole thing around all that, it would be apricated) The only way I can imagine however that somehow, they don’t need those iff antennas to use them would be to use them in a mad dog mode.
Regardless though the Thai F-16 in-game is supposed to represent a normal OCU meaning it shouldn’t have the aim-120 and from what I recall they never integrated the Python 3 on their F-16’s either, but I don’t think it has had any air to ground weapons it’s not supposed to have. In any case though the if the F-16 OCU is the “source” it still is invalid since not all F-16’s even within the same variant are all the same, since from what I also was told in the topic about the Thai F-16 that the new Belgian F-16 OCU is essentially the prototype to the F-16AM in-game which was used to test the AS-30 and Magic 2 on the F-16 (this is also why I am confused since from what I was told the F-16AM is an OCU but in-game it is labeled as F-16AM Block 15 MLU which seems to track since it of course has integrated those iff antennas and can use radar guided missiles since it has everything needed for it, but it still begs the question of where if there is a line drawn between what is an OCU and MLU and why that line does or doesn’t exist since it makes no sense to me).
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This is a clear example of the question of history and gameplay (in this case the F16), so we as players and customers of game services: Do we base our perceptions of vehicles and all their characteristics on historical reality or on how they perform in the game?
In both cases it should be uptiered
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Yes, it could be, but if it is historically based, evidence must be presented. If it is an improvement in the game, evidence is also needed that the F16 OCU can use the Sparrows.
The one we currently have, with the magic 2 is a special test bed from my knowledge (I could be wrong)
With that in mind we have a very specific airframe depicted and it’s armament, including a special TGP that from my knowledge no other plane in the game has
ATLIS II is not a unique TGP
If it can carry sparrows that wouldn’t be a bad thing, it should go up anyway so that would just help it
It really couldn’t lol
Alright then, though why? Did the belgian f16s just didn’t or did it get fully reworked weapons systems that removed that capability?
Because only Block 15 ADF & Iraqi Block 50had the capability
Regular 15’s didn’t have CW illuminator
Are you telling me others F-16s had only sidewinders?
Yep
Dang bro that’s crazy for a 4th gen fighter…
There’s a reason why NATO relied on US F-15s to protect their sky’s.
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VERY early F-16s only had IR. This plane doesn’t have SARH because it would be firing FOX-3s if it wasn’t at 12.7.
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