This is the live version, did you see the date this was posted? Lmao
The fact you used a video isntead of actual evidence is unusable and laughable, one ive looked at the data i could find, two the F-15 irl cant cobra, literally your showing this shit from another videl game called DCS, and the other VTOL VR, and guess what VR version was sped up, i found the none sped up version, its slow asf, also the F-15’s main issue is in sustained, your showing a danm f15 doing an 80° cobra which it cant even do irl. Lmao get actual flight characteristics data bud (declassified versions)
I was talking about high speed, low speed is fine no doubt, but anything above 350 knots and we got issues, not to mention i found out im able to glide at 110 knots without issue, 90 knots and i start to fall, its way over performing at high speeds for sure (above 350 knots)
They corrected this like, today… and the values are now in-line with the manual.
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I literally just test flew the f15 with 20 minutes of fuel, why am i still able to sustain 24° degrees?!
You’re not.
high speed was buffed hahahaha
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Well he is making it sound like he can do 24 deg/s at 350 knots which isn’t the case at fuel loads comparable to what is shown in the manual. Performance looks fine now.
My bad, had my hud off for the test and thought i was still on the 20 minutes selection, did both test at 10 minutes, and then 20 minutes, clean, at the deck, 350 knots. I got for the 10 minutes of fuel, 23.4°, as for the 20 minutes, i got 21.7° (ofc human error can be applied here, but average it out, 23° to 24° (10minutes), 21° to 22° (20 minutes) this is a massive change and im so glad its been implemented, ofc its still over performing by 1 to 2 degrees, but its War thunder, so it doesnt need to be dead perfect as displayed in the flight characteristics charts, but overall massive improvement to accuracy, by a whole 4 degrees almost. Glad they listened honestly (deadass i thought they wouldnt) 👏👏
It’s not overperforming according to the manual. That’s what I did the report with.
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Mmh, to be fair its the A model, so its kind like the F-16, the A model is gonna be the better dogfighter, as for the C its gonna be more capable, because i did test the f16a and found the flight charts for 5000 feet the f16a block 15 is able to sustain 24°, as for the C (block 50) it was 22°, and in war thunder, if you fly in full real and put dampning on, its instantaneous and sustained is accurate, but ever since they removed the “fly by wire” in Manual mode, its way more agile has more instantaneous, up to 40° and higher, but since gaijin doesnt seem to wanna put the f16 with permanent fly by wire, then its technically not over performing as people say they do, because it just doesnt have the limitations of fly by wire like last time, you understand what i am saying? Either way its the same situation atm with the F-15
The fly-by-wire doesn’t exist to limit performance. It’s there to allow the pilot the ability to go right to the absolute limit without fear of stepping past it. This means that anything beyond what the FBW would allow is technically beyond what would normally be possible while remaining in controlled flight.
The F-16 is overperforming.
do you know if the Su-27 flight model is being corrected too?
Its not, as i said i looked at the flight manual of the F-16C block 50 and the F-16A block 15, its not, and no. FBW limits your aircraft from eceeding the 9G limit sry by the computer because in testing the F-16 can handle 16G’s of instantaneous. But thats with high risks of ring damage, but it can sustain 12G’s, but the main reason why they limited the F-16 to 9G’s to for the pilots safety. The F-16C can sustained 22° it does the same in WT, the F-16A can sustain 26° it does the same in WT. Ive done testing over and over again and compered it to the flight data, its not. Ive done so many fucking times im tired of teliing people its not, the data i looked for the F-16A, is a version where the F-16A was test at 5000 feet with 50% fuel, it sustained 20°, now asuming the f16A was to be put with only 20% fuel at the deck it can do 26° you can look it up, but your going to struggle to find the non blurry, version.
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There is an open report about the sustained turn rates underperforming by a small margin ~0.5G or so.
FBW is not added solely “to allow the pilot the ability to go right to the limit without fear of step passing it.” It is not just a “limiter”. What an elementary understanding of the technology. No wonder you keep calling the F-16 a UFO.
Fly-by-wire (FBW) systems are semi-automatic, computer-regulated aircraft flight control systems that replace mechanical flight controls with an electronic interface.
When the pilot moves flight controls, those movements are converted into electronic signals, which are then interpreted by the aircraft’s flight control computers (FCC) to adjust actuators that move flight control surfaces. Computers also monitor sensors throughout the aircraft to make automatic adjustments that enhance the flight.
Fly-by-wire systems are equipped with literal super computers that are continuously making mass calculations many times a second using all relevant sensors such as airspeed, alpha and altitude and attitude etc. making many minute corrections during the entire flight envelope and not easily visible to the human eye.
The F-16 dominates because no matter what control input the pilot enters while conducting air combat maneuvers for example, it is free from human error and miscalculation. The FBW computer will correct the human pilots input so that the F-16 is always flying the most energy efficient optimal flight performance.
The F-16 is literally cheating irl and many pilots including aces have said it’s not really flying as it will not allow you to make the many small mistakes’ human pilots often make due to the insanely high stress and complexity of aerial combat/fog of war.
I don’t know if any of you ever sat in in a F-16. But the FBW is a reason there is so little range of movement in the flight stick. It barely moves, it just wiggles. The pilot’s input is completely guided and perfected by the F-16’s notoriously powerful FBW computer.
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Well said. You are absolutely correct. My long time friend @MiG_23M has an undying hatred for the F-16 for some reason. I have yet to find the cause.
Yes, the F-16 is capable of insanely high alpha and high G performance. Its designed aerodynamically unstable and has one of the quickest responses to pitch etc.
Reasoning for 9G limitations.
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9G is more than efficient for 98% of all ACM/BFM situations. Especially in regard to USA combat doctrine and design philosophy of the F-16 itself.
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Preservation of the airframe and maximization of flight hours. Allowing additional G performance will drastically reduce service life of each airframe.
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Pilot Safety.
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you talk about DCS i posted a video from DCS to disprove you, the only ones thats being laughed at is you.
F-15A is still overperforming (F-15C instead seems to be fine)
are the F-15s still breaking wings? Haven’t touched them in a long time due to that frustration.