but the pobit is already dead in a ditch so idk why i even mentioned that thing
I mean, gamemode dependent, id say for NE it should be 16.0 and the F-15E should be 15.3
get real lol, you just have a vendetta against the F-15E strike eagle for being good at striking things. unless Rafale, EFT, Su-30SM2 also go 16.0
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I guess F-15IA retain Python 5, Rafael Spice guided munitions, GBU-39 SDB and JDAM/LJDAM from F-15I Ra’am
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f-15ia should just be a f-15ex but better. makes sense since israeli ground munition is quite a bit a better than american
Vendetta? I like the F-15E? A lot? Only reason I havent been playing it in NE as of late are:
- Its so easy in the gamemode its gotten boring
- There are more players playing US than there are playing all other nations combined, so I dont wanna bother with the matchmaking
- I dont currently have anything I want to grind left in the US air tree
Being able to carry 20x GBU-53’s is just objectively busted in the NE gamemode, as are JSOW’s and AGM-88G (though the last ones arent carried by F-15E/EX’s).
The F-15EX on arrival will have the best AAM’s for top tier NE, tied for best AAM load, the best strike load, top 3 SEAD performance, and best high altitude performance. Its going to dominate matches, likely being the best BVR aircraft by quite a large margin, while also being the best strike aircraft by quite a large margin. You’re just biased towards it and cant see what a balancing nightmare the thing is.
With the MRML’s, it’ll be capable of carrying 20x GBU-53’s while still carrying 12x AIM-120D’s, which means literally every sortie will have the potential to be equivalent to dropping ~2-3 5kt nukes with literally no loss in air to air capability. Its moronic how busted the F-15EX would be in NE.
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I mean he is not fully wrong. The F-15E is one of the reasons why top tier NE is so lopsided in US favor.
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I would argue it’s more of an indictment on the quality of NE balancing rather than anything else. It is of course an issue, but it’s just a symptom of a much larger problem imo
The primary issue that plagues NE balancing at 13.7+ atm (imo), is the US’ absolutely ridiculous SEAD/Strike capability which no other nation has, and while the F-15E/EX aren’t the cause of that, they are the most egregious example of it due to their much larger carriage capabity and flight performance advantages over the other jets that share problematic munitions. The incoming F-15EX just turns that up to 11 by retaining the extremely problematic strike capacity, while effectively removing all NE specific disadvantages the F-15E has (lack of AESA radar, lack of 120D’s, reduced air to air loads when carrying out strike missions)
- AGM-88G’s are the only missiles reliably able to kill long range SAM sites atm following radar shutoff mechanics that have gimped REDFOR ramjet ARMs (the devs kind of pulled an extremely stupid move and nerfed REDFOR ARM’s, THEN added a BLUFOR equivalent to pre-nerf REDFOR SEAD capability, and only for 1 nation…)
- SDB’s (both GPS and IR, but mostly IR variants) offer unparalleled strike quantities while also having a secondary SEAD role due to the near total inability for long range SAM’s to intercept them
- AGM-154 JSOW’s offer defacto guaranteed stationary target kill due to the stealth feature making them almost impossible for SAM to intercept, a capability which no other nation has
Yes, there are nations that have access to spice 250’s (namely the EFT’s) but they are limited to 8x vs the 20x carried by the F-15E/EX, and due to their small HE warhead instead of the HEAT warhead of stormbreakers, they are much less reliable vs armoured targets, which cuts down on the strike capability.
The jet will objectively be a balancing nightmare in NE until gaijin does something to reign in those massive advantages it has.
Bruh.
there’s a single chinese Flanker with double pylons…
and it carries fewer Fox-3s than the F-15GE and the F-15EX.
Small nitpick, but very technically speaking a couple of nations have this capability. China (F-16V), Britain (F/A-18F), Sweden (F/A-18C MLU 2) and soon to be Israel (F-15IA) all have access to JSOW’s.
However none of those except Israel have them combined with the massive weapons load and flight performance of the F-15EX.
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Mains of a plane that hasn’t even been released into the game yet.
Ty for the correction, i keep forgetting there are some cross nation jets, cuz i refuse to play them tbh xD
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It’s also a dogshit Su-33 airframe (aibeit better engines) with 48 cms
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And? It’s about powercreep and a realistic way to fight it.
well, thats the problem with new jets like this. we dont have the numbers, all of that stuff is classified. the most we know is the bare bones. but thats never stopped gaijin before. so just hoping they do SOMETHING at least. idk why everyone is so against giving the EX a slight buff so its at least more than a missile bus
with 023 version that rolled out today Gaijin removed MAWS from 3d model on F-15IA, so if that doesn’t tell you about fate of MAW on Fat-15EXtra, I don’t know what will.
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With caveat being forced sidewinders on outer wing pylons.
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yea unfortunately not 16 120s but its fine by me tbh