F-15EX Dev Discussion Thread

or they would get rid of MCM entirely because the EX would be able to big bro the SM2’s and J-16’s w/ 16 missiles lol

Have you tried NOT doing that and utilizing the speed instead? Crazy I know.

R73 can be 1 flared and still spins and wobbles after 5 years of development. I guess when the 9x comes and behaves similar you will say its russian bias

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Already does, and the IRCCM is currently shit idk what they do to it

I regret to inform you that flying in a straight line the entire match is normally not a good idea.

As can the 9M or L which cant do HMS stuff, we are also talking about a actual rate fight, if you are trying to do such at a distance greater than 3 miles then thats strictly a you issue, below such no amount of flares is saving a F-15 that has had it’s AB on for any amount of time from either a 9M or R-73.

The 9X is already in game and has what amounts to the FIM-92’s seeker so no it wont.

Arguably the better of the two SAMs present for the SLAM / NASAMs imo.

9X blk 2 is kinda mid tho, doesnt lock properly and its DL doesnt work half the time and goes to narnia instead (non-existent LOAL), also its “very smokeless” that u can see it being launched from 12km

id assume by the time it comes to aircraft, itll get a pretty significant buff just like the r73 received this dev

if the r73 is getting 60gs then id expect the 9x and iris t to be around 70gs or more

I’d rather have a 40G tvc missile that actually hit than a 60G one with a mind of it’s own

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To each their own I guess, I’ve had great success with it, especially against guys trying to thunder run a fixed wing extremely low who only pop up on radar very short time frames. The 120s fair better against the myriad of IRCCM helos for obvious reasons though.

well the 9x is gonna pull harder and have a much better irccm than the r73


I dont expect you to know how to read this chart

but if you do you may notice that SM2 and even SM have higher negative SEP lines than any of these F-15s

meaning that they bleed less speed when making hard maneuvers (at least at dog fighting speeds where you would be holding s)

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Worse than the IRIS-T and MICA-IR so no worries there 👌

IRIS-T no DL and GNSS tho, MICA IR im not sure

Neither of those things are going to help in a HOBS over–the-shoulder fight.

Gives the 9x like a 20% of wrapping around but in that time an IRIS-T or MICA would’ve just killed you outright

i was comparing the 9x to the r73, not the mica ir or iris t

40g IRIS-T tho

And AIM-9X is not that much worse, it’ll still kill in over the shoulder

if we go based on how they are in game currently, the 9x will be better than the iris t

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and even then uhh saying they would be better is kinda a big claim

and DL absolutely does help in that kind of fight, assuming both planes are maneuvering due to the relatively long time between launch and seeker being able to acquire the target

also iirc 9x out pulls the IRIS T by a good margin

Well also no worries, since I prefer the Rafale to the EFT

the mica is 50gs in game, so just base the mica ir performance off the current mica in the game, if the mica stays at 50gs and the 9x gets around 70, itll be better