it is also very manouverable in WT with the correct fuel load
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And I awnsered… fly by wire and better overall systems can make all the difference plus the engines pretty much negate all the weight
nothing will ever be enough. these people already have come to conclusions in their mind. they don’t care about objectivity. even if they saw the insane maneuvers the F-15EX in is doing in those flight demo’s they wont even believe there own eyes
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Same thing that makes the F-16 worse than the F-2 in maneuverability, larger control and aerodynamic surfaces and a modest TWR
The EX doesn’t do anything to improve the aerodynamics or control surfaces of the wing, just the TWR so it lacks a part of the equation for a radical improvement in maneuverability
a fbw dosent change the areodynamics of the jet
it is still a F-15E with more weight and thrust
and as such it will behave like it
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@Ruska_o7 You also replied to the wrong post.
The fact you claim these videos are wrong is funny.
Prove these videos are wrong if you think Ron, myself, etc are wrong for believing them.
The issue is these videos prove War Thunder’s representation.
They do not disprove it.
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you have made up your own mind
the f15ex can perform those manouvers in WT
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im agreeing with you lol. what im saying is it should be better the f15c in terms of maneuverability (as it is in real life) and at least better than the current f-15e in terms of maneuverability… which in my tests… its not
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The issue is the videos don’t prove that.
All the videos can do is provide vague maneuvers that we can do in most aircraft in War Thunder.
explain to me how a heavier airframe will perform better than the lighter one
where are you getting that figure of 21 degrees per second?
What is the TWR of A and EX
Pretty quick way to disprove him
okay, idk if you read my OG post or just cherry picked what you felt like reading. but regardless of warthunder or what you believe. the F-15EX is OBJECTIVELY more maneuverable in real life (yes i know digital fbw is not modeled). my ENTIRE f*cking point was that i KNOW its not modeled in warthunder but that i would hope they would compensate for that somehow because it should absolutely be out-performing the F-15C as per every single pilot who has flown the EX and the manufacturer themselves stated. and again, heavier doesnt equal worse when you have 40% more thrust. if we applied that same logic to MIG-35 then by your logic it should be shit…
explain to me why it shouldnt perform like an F-15E with more thrust and more weight
the Mig-35 has had changes to its wingspan
it has bigger elevators and a redesigned leading edge
show me where they did such changes on the F-15EX
From a test I did yesterday.
19 degrees per second at lower speeds, 21 at 700kph.
Couldn’t test higher without G-lock being a serious issue.
i swear, i say one thing and you switch to an entirely different point
awnser
why would the 15EX not behave like a 15E with more thrust and weight
because that is what you are complaining about
again:
show where the areodynamic changes on the F-15EX were made
mig-35 also has a much higher drag coefficient and also lower thrust to weight ratio.
so again. why does it perform like a ufo in comparison?
bigger wings does not equal better sustained turn btw
Based on in-game VNE limits, it’s quite clearly not ripping apart like it should. Unless you think Mach 2+ at 6 500 meters (well over its VNE limit of 1.94) is okay?
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