F-15E and F-15I should go to 14.0+

It is, but it would be disingenuous to suggest it’s anywhere near the capability of an AGM (never mind the X6 of them the E can carry).

You also have to sacrifice four AAM’s to carry just two of them.

I never suggested it was. Just that he was full of BS

Only because it is not the clipped wing GBU-15 which is capable of carrying 120s with it.

The drag and thrust change hit live. After some tests, the F-15E now seems a lot closer to the chart you posted there.

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Oh so those changes were not already live?
Anyway i’ll wait for some tests to show up

@Giovanex05
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No change.

???
Game is now on version 2.41.0.21. You probably didn’t update.

All FM changes can be found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1gw0zi6/241018_241021/
@Giovanex05

The drag nerf can really be felt. It’s a lot more of a struggle to reach mach 2.2 and similar now.

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That’s a datamine of the dev server.
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It is not just the Gripen FM that needs to be fixed, but other jets like the Mig 29 and Su-27. This is also not going into Brs.

Tbh I think everyone knew, even people who denied it that the US air tree gets hand held so hard since 2015. They are literally the only nation in game to achieve having an undertiered top tier aircraft out of every nation, and the only nation to ever have an undertiered top tier vehicle period (Something not even German tankers are able to achieve).

The fact that the F15E and I in its current iteration somehow did not get nerfed or a major BR raise despite its performance in the dev server is ridiculous.

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Dude…

Just open the game and check for yourself instead of arguing an empty point. Main client is now 2.41.0.21
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Then yours is, mine is still on 0.20 where the F-15E still produces over 17800kgf per engine on the deck:

If that estimated top speed chart is right then yes the envelope is A LOT closer to the real thing. Will like to also look at the sustained turn performance since thrust got changed only on the top end. But first glance they did a good job.

@CyrusJackson
I’m not Gaijin, I can’t force the client to update if it doesn’t want to.
Stop being combative.

Update is live for everyone now BTW.

MiG-29Fm is the closest to manuals we have in game, Su-27 they likely gave it too much thrust and too much drag at the same time, but it’s really hard to report and difference wouldn’t be game changin.

Gripen FM is still extremely likely overperforming along with ALL the planes that lack real charts. A variants of F-15 and F-16 overperform quite a bit as well but they are “close enough” for gaijin.

When compared to 15C and 16C and fuel is adjusted for same actual afterburner time the 27 and the 29 do not perform badly, is the rest of the stuff that has fantasy FM

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Ignore him, update is live

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Yeah. Just tried it in a match. It’s still a F-15 at its core with better engine so it’s still dominant but it’s a lot less of a UFO than before, for sure. With the drag coefficient now higher, I imagine the optimal load will be full internal fuel with no external/no CFT. To limit drag to a maximum.

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Yeah CFTs in game are useful only to have more pylons, in air RB drop tanks are more useful if someone needs more fuel

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By the way, do you know if there’s any limitation to having amraam on one CFT and bombs on the other?

The game says that’s impossible yet you can have a much more goofy loadout with CFT only on 1 side while the other side is clean lol.

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Stop plagiarizing my takes then telling people to ignore me.
Your post can be seen as bait due to that.

Never really checked but i don’t think one side CFT is possible lol, that would be a lot of weight imbalance