Well, sweden players have been asking for it for a while now…
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wait a few weeks for gaijin to wake up and nerf the high speed engine thrust into the ground (as it should, F-15E should not exceed mach 2.3 at 40k feet in US standard day (and shouldn’t exceed 2.5 even in extremely cold condition that never happen in war thunder outside of manually setting temperature in test flight local host commands). Even with 229s engines when modelled right the F-15E is an inferior A2A airframe than the F-15C, only thing it is better at is low speed acceleration and a little higher low altitude top speed.
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I know. It’s a typical case of Gaijin listening to the wrong crowd. I can’t blame Gaijin for it, loud people wanted it. Well they got it. It’s bad as predicted.
I feel nothing but pity for the fools who bought it for cash though, especially as the tech tree version its an easy grind with the 37C…
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Yeah, it was my prediction too. Like, you hear sweden players complain about Viggen performance at 12.0, and they want one even higher?
It’s cool though and part of Swedens history. To have it as a premium exclusive would have been a bad call.
I think top tier Germany air and US ground would disagree to it applying to all big three nations, but for minor nations I agree.
We’re talking about an aim9m here, that thing won’t be able to hit shit that’s not in front of it. What you are describing is a playstyle that works for a R73, sitting low, and shooting enemies that are above and at your sides where the R73 can do a 180 and still track. FYI, a 9M doesn’t have thrust vectoring. And having HMD does not give a 9M thrust vectoring.
You can’t just expect a non-thrust vectoring missile to hit someone who’s on their side. This is exactly why the R73 and R27ER were dominant, any attempt at getting on someone’s six made you extremely vulnerable to an R27ER from even 10km away.
What the hell is this revisionism. Before the Fox 3 update the best plane was the Gripen A and it’s not even debatable.
The 9M excels at side aspect shots at around 3.5km. You know how you get a 3.5km side aspect shot ? By turning in circles with a Gripen in the middle of a furball with autoflares on.
The Mirage 4000 was the second best plane btw. 8x Magic 2 on a plane that had the agility to get in rear aspect (unlike the Su27).
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Silly me coming here to talk about the F-15E/I, I suppose all roads do lead back to weirdos on about Russian bias
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I don’t think theres Russian bias but I also don’t think Russia is so weak pre-fox 3 era like some claim them to be.
That’s so wrong and biased there.
I have played the Mirage 4000 and the best it can do to win a fight vs Su-27 was to wait for the Su-27 to have no more R-73.
Mirage 4000 is beaten in every Ratio aspect by Su-27 (let alone F-16’s),… once you have burned your energy for a possible side-rear aspect shot that got flared away, the only solution was to make Su-27 overshoot.
Almost like the addition of the Pantsir. Gaijin seems to be showing a trend.
I guess Gaijin isn’t really that biased as some might believe.
Also, would be quite fun to watch all the malding threads claiming bias if RU was the one that got something like F-15E.
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I can’t believe they are opponents to jets like: Tornado F.3, MiG-29 9.13/SMT, F-16A’s and F-4 ICE. It is just pathetic. Like the F-15C already wasn’t enough…
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Tbf before fox 3, the j11 and su27 were by far the best, and then in dogfighting the gripen and now the j10 is the best.
Amraam is only barely better then pl12 at range, but worse in close shots.
America hasn’t “dominated” top tier. The f15e is probably OP, but the rest of America isn’t that insane
Either that or this update focused on ground, where Russia got its second untouchable CAS aircraft.
The F-15E can remove the CFTs in War Thunder and the 229 gives it a higher TWR than the F-15C, even with CFT on. Saying it’s a worse A2A platform than the F-15C if modeled right is straight-up cope. The only thing the F-15C is and will be better at is pure dogfighting, the F-15E will outdo it everywhere else.
Furthermore, Gaijin already fixed high altitude over performance in the previous devserver. You can find the chart in Gzabi datamines.
Before
After
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They never have the best, what they do have is the most.
What is OP about the F-15E is the sheer amount of them, all just spamraaming and sitting 50km away from the 3 poor guys remaining on their team
Weight and worse aerodynamics affect everything, not only dogfighting. According to manuals the 15C is faster and loses less energy in turns (and difference in energy retention increases the faster you go).
Again only things 15E does really better is acceleration/climb (the lower the speed the higher the difference)
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whole lot of help those have been, the F-15E is simply superior to the F-15C at the time of writing, i don’t see the point in trying to deny that?