Same with GRB , both the F15E and the SU34 are NOT equal to the current 12.7’s in anyway, they should be 13.0 with how much of a gap their capabilities are with any plane.
God forbid anyone wants to enjoy top tier, get these planes as far away from 11.7 as possible.
The F15E and I can be 14.0 in air and they’d still the best
The top BR should’ve been 15.0 before AMRAAMs were added, yet it’s still 13.7.
All jet development from the 40s to the 2010s (ish) is all in a whopping 6.7 BRs. Me-262s fight sabres, upgraded sabres face F-104s/Mig-19s, which face all aspect 30g missiles, and it doesn’t get any better. Between 10.7 and 11.7 you go from a Mig-21MF with 4 R-60s to the MiG-21ML/A/D which has 4 R-60MKs and 2 R-24Rs.
It is just ridiculous at this point.
I don’t know how the person who was in charge of the F-15E’s BR thought that 13.7 would be fine for it. The F-15C and its variants were already the most meta top tier planes, the E is an all-around improvement except for maneuverability, which isn’t even all that important because you can just avoid a dogfight by flying away and nothing can catch you.
Israeli F-15I still doesn’t have any form of fire and forget weapons unlike the US version. Israeli air additions have consistently been copy/paste US planes with either worse engines, worse radar, or worse air to ground armament, when this was one of the key aspects Israel developed. Gaijin this is not funny at all. Two years this has been happening.
The Israeli F-15I is technically better than the F-15E for air superiority due to it having more countermeasures, it lacking fire and forget ordinances doesn’t matter in Air RB.
Just keep spamming or bugging people in forums and you’ll probably eventually get your fire and forget stuff like the SPICE (just how like the American community coped enough until they got the 229 engines).
Thing is I never ran out of countermeasures anyway. I’d rather the F-15E in the Israeli tree rather than a gimped worse copy paste. If it got Python 4 I’d agree but rn it’s just much worse.
As should the F-15JM, F-15C MSIP II, and potentially Su-34.
F-15E’s airframe suffers from its too powerful engine and performs worse in rate compared to the F-15Cs.
The only thing F-15E can do better is high-alt BVR and escapes.
Hard no, there is such thing as too decompressed.
I calculated 14.0 in 2023. We’re at 14.7/15.0 effective today, and that’s dang near perfect decompression from 8.0 to present 13.0.
Bro said the F-15E suffers from too powerful engines like what?
Statshark might not be reliable, heard there were bugs that might have been fixed but this is what statshark generates regarding rate.
Yeah, neither of these should’ve been added, yet here we are.
We might need 15.0 decompression after AMRAAM is added at least.
because We already have three terrible compressions in BR radius
F-86A-5 shouldn’t share the same BR with Meteor F.4 or Vampire FB.5 and punishing Me 262
T-2 shouldn’t have just one step higher BR than F-104A/C or F-100D
and F-15C/E/I shouldn’t have just one step higher BR than Tornado F.3 Late (Two steps seems fine for me) or facing F-14A Early.
We need more and more decompression.
IMO, F-16A or F-14A Early[12.7] which faces F-15E[13.7] barely have no chance against superior enemy
Just like old time when Hunter F.6[10.3] faced F-14A Early[11.3]
Differences in BR are Closer Than They Should.
Oh, they changed rate speed since last dev.
I mean, I’d rather be the F-100D in that situation than the other two.
Once the merge happens, T-2 loses to F-100, and F-104 loses to both.
T-2 really only has those AIM-9Js going for it now.
And before you say anything nasty, the reason why I have this perspective is F-100A: ~1.5 KMR, 3:1 KDR.
Defyn’s content, a 1v1 friend of mine, and the engine buffs to F-100 just made that thing soar.
T-2 lacks the rate and acceleration.
F-104 has the acceleration, but not the turning ability.
I get what you mean though, all should be brought up by at least 0.3, and be fine. Obviously with stuff above them going up as well.
Yes, we need new battle ratings. What happens if the F-22A gets here, what…? BR 13.7?
F-22A at BR 14.3, lol.
I’m scared because that is completely possible. 13.7-14.0 is starting to enter 4.5 gen region, Eurofighter at 14.0, Rafale at 14.0, etc.
14.3 is 5th gen.
Won’t stop them from fully overloading the thing with bombs and going after bases until they get that number down to 14.0.
Not really. AESA radar prevents F-22 from being 14.3.
F-15C MSIP II already is gen 4.5.
It was just sarcastic joke with hyperbole, buddy.
XD
The F-22 only has AIM-9Ms and AIM-120A-C.
It really isn’t ground breaking outside the AESA and stealth aspect.
And we’re close to AESA as the next step, then it’s stealth and GG game “finished”.
Of course IRIS-T/9X/R-74 can be added afterward.
I don’t see a need for the no-escape range AESA AMRAAMs… ever.
Maybe when there’s a stealth-only category of BRs.
But yeah, stealth is great when you don’t know where the stealth aircraft is coming from.
Air RB? Nothing really changes.
Sim is a bit more BVR focused, and there are maps like Afghan to mitigate that.
Sinai in sim is already whichever side as the better BVR wins.
i though amraam didnt have aesa seeker or do u mean the fighters radar
AIM-260, R-77M, AAM-4B, Meteor, etc all have internal AESA radars.
I want gaijin decompression max BR to 14.0 for F-15E and F-15I before add Python 4 (F-15I) and AIM-120C AMRAAM (AIM-120C-3, AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7) for winter update 2024 or BR change in january 2025
Add AIM-120C AMRAAM (AIM-120C-3, AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7)
2x AIM-9L and AIM-9L at tier I replace with AIM-9M, Python 4 instead 4x AIM-9L & AIM-9M (tier III)
AIM-120B replace with AIM-120C-3 and add AIM-120C-5
