Although they were already on the first F-15, their use was only made possible by the new control system on modern F-15s.
so before, it was just built with the extra pylon in mind? and it took them like 40 years to actually use it?
Initially it was made for additional ECM pods. There is even photo from trials.
But thise pylons caused instability and other problems so wasn’t used.
New FbW and harder wing allow to reactivate them and use.
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The pylon was not used mainly because of the observed problems with lateral stability and, to a lesser extent, because of the high wingtip stresses. The first meant great sensitivity to the aircraft’s lateral balance which the pylon made very bad with armament. Second, the F-15 does not have a movable leading edge, instead using a variable camber fixed leading edge. The wingtip is very curved and there was rapid damage and wear in this area that was worsening the pylon.
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good thing we can sort of get this if we get F-15E 85-183 or any advanced eagle
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Yeah, i know.
F-15E 86-0183 possibly will be only with PW-220.
yeah ik but it has a bunch of cool test stuff, it has the outer pylons
@GeneralLee2000
The faster a jet goes the more channel loss at low subsonic speeds it has.
Static thrust doesn’t matter that much anyway.
@Lolman345
Gaijin’s drag is currently correct for clean aircraft. It was correct 3 years before DCS corrected their’s with the introduction of the jet Lightning.
What’s incorrect is pylons don’t have mass or drag.
Of clean loadouts.*
@BBCRF
Su-27’s flight models were changed, engine thrust has not been changed and is currently accurate to known data.
Gaijin does not change engine thrust unless it’s proven.
Su-27s don’t have low channel losses.
@kitsune_qq
F-15E can and does supercruise at its designated speed on dry thrust.
The thrust is accurate.
@quartas121
The F-15s are currently accurate in sustained, climb, and top speeds below 14000 meters.
Should be better than in game at high alt
Although the flight model has been changed, it is still far from what is needed, the thrust of the Su-27 engine is overestimated like all the others to compensate for the excessive drag.
If you think the Su-27 needs to be better than the Gripen in flight performance, I have a bridge to sell you.
The Su-27s are already meta flight models and currently don’t have “excessive drag”.
The Su-27’s engine also isn’t over-estimated.
The Su-27 is the most maneuverable aircraft of the 4th generation in the STR.
Highly doubt that.
Su-27SM BTW is as good as F-16C in-game with same fuel time.
The F16 is significantly inferior to the Su-27
That is not a sustained turn, that’s an instantaneous turn which is matched in War Thunder.
On the contrary I would rate the F-16 as the best in sustained turning, the Viper is little matched to this day.
Air shows are not valid.
