Not exactly. Due to its monstrous thrust, its available overload at the end is significantly higher than AIM-54 at BVR range.
In fact, the AIM-54 can only reach 17G overload under very harsh conditions.The AIM-54 is more maneuverable towards the end of the burn and at the beginning of the glide, but this is no longer the case after that.
Moreover, the high terminal speed (16km→0) can greatly shorten the time for notch.
60km 9000m m1.2 vs m1.2，
fakour90 M2.82
AIM-54C M2.04
AIM-120A M1.88
Your running into the same problem that’s stopped a bunch of Chinese planes from being accurate, they make up numbers and then request a bunch of classified documents if you want the missile/plane/tank to be accurate. Then if someone actually does submit the documents they say “we can’t use this cause it’s classified”
I’m sorry - but what is TTT? This is the first time I’ve heard/seen such an acronym. Is this some kind of “time to…”?
As for the speed and reduced reaction time - I agree. This will clearly be the main killer feature of the F90.
As for maneuverability… Well… I think we will simply find ourselves in a situation where it is harder to miss with a faster bullet. If the hit percentage does increase, then, as it seems to me, it will not be because of greater maneuverability, but because of greater speed. Simply because a faster object requires less lead.
Time To Target. Think Time To Impact gets more use so I’ll use that in the future.
Yeah, they say the official statement is just a “claim” and ask for the manual for a missile from Iran, as if that’s ever gonna be published.
And then their own number is based on basically nothing …
We often get very accurate data using 6 DOF modeling in my line of work. Given we know the engine, weights, and flight performance of the body, we can predictive model this missile with pretty good accuracy. We also know the performance enhancements of modern digital seekers. Given all of this, it is likely that the missile will underperform, (just like the Sparrows, Sidewinders, AMRAAM, and Phoenix) on the US side already do.
What we do know, from the past and how abysmally incorrect the US missiles are, this one will under perform as well. So you have that.
Active seeker with allegedly 50km range (most likely for SAM missiles, not necessarily Fakour)
Why is the amraam on that list? They nerfed the rest of the arh missiles down to be worse than it, it’s currently the best missile in the game.
Because the AMRAAM is also nerfed. It doesn’t perform nearly as well as it should, meanwhile they went with +150% performance on the R27ER.
The range appears to be mostly accurate now. They’ve gutted the turning performance compared to what it used to be though.
They’ve gutted the turning performance compared to what it used to be though.
Is it realistic? Fireball made a statement that it could have been from devs reading the charts or something of that sort for the minimum range maneuverability
The R27ER has the range tuned down a bit foor balance.
Well it’s seems to no longer be capable of pulling the 35g listed on the stat card (which is apparently the correct figure IRL) so I’d guess not.
Yes, we can
No, the Iranian Fakour-90 has a new ARH seeker that was developed specifically for it. All it uses is the warhead and booster from the I-HAWK.
The 1960’s sensors were the issue, not the guidance system or the aerodynamic layout. The modern guidance and sensors would allow higher overloads as the response to instabilities would be quicker.
i know, im just pointing out how he said the fakour uses the mim-23 seeker doesn’t make sense because fakour is an ARH
Indigenous AIM-54 "Phoenix" air-to-air missile rounds called Fakour-90:
What the F-14 AM can use:
Iranian F-14A-GR with two MIM-23B ‘I-Hawk’ missiles (foreground) during ‘Project Sky Hawk’ trials.
[Above] Iranian F-14As with functional ‘glove vanes.’ These ‘vanes’ were deleted on later versions of USN Tomcats (F-14B and D models), citing excessive complexity and maintenance issues. Functioning F-14A ‘vanes’ on Iranian aircraft is consistent with research conducted by Tom Cooper and Farzad Bishop.
Fakour-90 manouverability test, fired at 1000m alt, off bore, high closure rate, from like 14 km away
Fakour 90 stats, fired at enemy at 40 km distance, from sea level, enemy climbing slightly
