We need to look into the capability of firing the R-27R. I don’t think it was capable.
@Smin1080p_WT are the devs aware of this or is it an intentional decision to add it anyway?
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I was more looking for confirming sources
Because the NASA source that I included in the report does provide thrust values
That’s 84516N for the booster and 13344.7N for the sustainer
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The source stating 21G acceleration for the sounding rocket confirms that indirectly as the math comes out to a very similar number. Those are also peak numbers.
So we have at least 2 sources for thrust, burn time, propellant weight… the missile should be very close to accurately modeled when it comes to the game then.
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Was the Iranian F-14 ever proposed with better IR missiles? Maybe AIM-9H, AIM-9L, R-73, anything that was proposed as a sale even if canceled.
This site claims the use of R-73
Their Phantom’s HAVE fired the R-73, so it is not far of a stretch to say their F-14’s could also use them.
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Already one source stating R-73 has been integrated:
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I never said they arent using modern digital electronics, I said the comparison being made is against an old analogue AIM-54
There is the Sidewinder-based Azarakhsh IR missile with (apparently) IIR seeker, datalink and smokeless motor that is used as point defense SAM and also air launched from drones, but there is no information about its use on F-14:
There is a video of R-73 test fire from the Iranian F-4E, but, again, no information about it being tested with F-14:
So the only proven IR missile for now would be AIM-9P/J
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The comparison is being made against a missile we had actual data for. Conjecture does not go well in reports and is why you don’t report. Stop hijacking my threads.
Yeah it would be good for this thread to actually contribute efforts and resources towards this aircraft. The AIM-54 Phoenix thread consists of nearly 2,000 posts but not much results to show for it.
Here you go with an Aim-9P and a Aim-7E-2 on an F14AM
More images including R27s, Hawks, etc. On F14AMs
F14AM with R27:
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Iran never had AIM-7F/M
Those are AIM-7E2 (which had to be modified for use on F-14 as the Tomcat is not compatible with the standard AIM-7E2 either)
As for the R-27 only the physical pylon adapter was made. (As part of “project Tofan”)
There is no evidence of it carrying or test firing R-27 and even years later you can see it being armed with AIM-7E2 and AIM-9P/J when on alert or on escort missions
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Not a issue for War Thunder, there are plenty of examples on why this doesn’t matter.
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Well, yes, but seems like their current stance on this is that it will get AIM-7E2 and R-27
I don’t much care for speculation on the available ordnance. Let’s focus instead on collecting sources. Thanks.
Rumor round up is for speculation.
“Prior to the revolution, Iran had received some Sparrows (Aim-7Fs) for the 80 Grumman F-14s that had been delivered.” https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=600
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Janes is not a valid source we will still need two other valid sources.
Does anyone know exactly what ground ordinance the Persian Cat is going to feature?
I believe it can use the same ground ordinance as the base F-14A, as well as the Yasser, or 750lb bomb “not so tiny-tim”