I already know how it works. You don’t which is why you explain it wrong. IOG is internal guidance, which means when the missile loses lock, it keeps going on the path you were going. The Fakour/Phoenixes don’t have chaff resistance, which is why I know for a fact you aren’t notching.
Screams skill issue. Dodging missiles is never “luck-based” and using that terminology is very telling. Again, the missile cannot track cold targets.
Is it now? https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk?si=ee7ebHz5cJU5Yx4N&t=79 You can literally see here that the missile goes into IOG as soon as he notches, and when he goes cold, it doesn’t require him. That’s an Aim-54A, but the Fakour has the same seeker, so it performs the same.
I’m not really in the mood to deal with arrogant people in any other way. He’s spewing misinformation, so whether or not his concern is “valid” doesn’t really matter. It’s not my or anyone else’s job to baby people on this forum.
and what happens when you got cold or hot? it relocks you, you need to stay in the notch to dodge them,
when i was starting to play top tier arb(in f16c,f15c,f15a), i wasnt really good at notching, so i defeated missiles by going cold and defeating them kinetically, i needed to learn how to notch because of fakours, they ALWAYS killed me, so yeah they can track cold targets man
got me there, im wrong
no it doesnt, the fakours goes mach 5 and loses barely any speed, making it harder to dodge then the aim54a, so yeah it doesnt perform the same,
my gameplay is quite aggressive so i love being in the heat, i NEED to know how to notch so yeah, my gameplay doesnt revolve around firing 4 missiles and running back to the air field
Fakours cannot track rear aspect for the 1,907,645th time.
Try launching a fakour against a cold target. You will see missile seeker will show up as a grey circle. That means the missile currently cannot see the target.
You will almost never see Mach 5 with the Fakour. Same as the Aim-120. It also impacts only around 0.2 Mach faster than the Phoenix, which means it definitely does lose speed. The seeker on the Fakour and Phoenix are the same, so they’re both defeated the exact same way.
nvm i was wrong, the fakour can only reach 4.2(at its max) launch from 7.5km alt going mach 1.3, while the aim54a(at same alt/speed) goes mach 3.2(at its max), still thats a whole mach diff and the acceleration is night and day between them, fakour reaches mach 3.6 under 2 to 4 seconds after launch reaches 4.2 at its max and drops to mach 3.6 in its drop, so yeah, while the aim54a takes its sweet of 6-7 seconds and only stays 3.2 for couple seconds only to drop to mach 2.3 in its drop, so i maybe wrong that it goes mach 5, but the fakour 90 still out performs it
Try actually using the F-14 in an uptier. Its F90s work as they usually do. You still catch people out - 13.0… 14.0… doesn’t matter. F-14 is fine at 13.0. Won’t say no to better missiles, but it’s still fun and good.
They absolutely can, you need to hold notch, chaff and change direction to dodge them just like you would any other Fox-3. Killed this poor soul today. Turning, chaffing, the seeker got fooled for a second but reacquired the moment he went cold. You can see from his RWR that he’s being locked and clearly the Phoenix was tracking because it followed his turn.
At least that’s the case for Phoenixes and you said yourself:
This checks out because the Fakour from my teammate was also tracking him, but my Phoenix was there like half a second faster lol.
This is you firing the phoenix? Because it very much looks like the F-14 is holding the lock. You can see the RWR shows a radar lock from very far away and a missile very close, which matches what seems to be happening here. If you hold the lock in rear aspect, the missile is still going to track based on the radar and DL. So even if the radar is chaffed, it’ll still track, similar to the Aim-7F.
There is also a caveat to the head-on-only seeker. It’s possible that at high altitudes, the Phoenix/Fakour doesn’t slow down as much, which means the speed difference between the missile and the plane means it could track in “head-on” mode while being rear aspect. However, it’s extreme parameters that make that happen.
Can you share the same clip, but show what track type the missile is in? I’m interested to see if what I suspect is true.
I’m stumped honestly. I’ve defeated Aim-54As, Cs, I personally never waste chaff on Fakours. I avoid them all by simply by going cold and I’ve seen my enemies do that too.
